ERNEST HOPE Acrobat

[mckha489]

The marriage was on 24th July 1911.
So a very quick turn around from a marriage on 4th January.

[haney]

Hi Everyone
   Thanks for all the information and help.  Firstly Sue I have been reviewing all of the rootschats messages re this subject.

  What I can say is that there is NO brother to James Richard BOW named Ernie OR anything close to that.

I have collated all the siblings of James R BOW.  He has 2 DOLLARD siblings ie JOHN ALOYSIUS (named in Gazette) as J Bow and one sister Mary Ellen DOLLARD.


James half siblings are William/Alexander BOW, Colin McGregor BOW b 1896 Broken Hill d 1960, + Margaret Eileen BOW b 1902 in Broken Hill. 

1901 Census has the family in Broken Hill

Colins son Frederick was killed in a drowning accident in B HILL 1925

There were some other BOW'S born to Mary Ellen and James Robert BOW in South Australia

As for that newspaper report with the whole Ernie King Brother to James R BOW. I think that is just really bad reporting, that is very confusing when you read it and contradictory.

How Violet wrote to an Ernerst King and the mother intercepted the reply etc etc makes no sense to me at all.

So I'm not going to worry about that too much.

As for James Richard in trouble (thanks for the clipping re 1913) It looks to me he may have been on the training ship SOBRAON there is a record in 1899 for a James Richard BOW.

Would be interesting to see.

Also Violet was divorced from hubby in Sydney in 1942 I think.  I just had a quick look at that.

She deserted her husband James DYE left him with the 4 kids in Tasmania and she is all over the place from there.

Anyway now I have a clearer picture of what happened with James Richard BOW and the entanglement with RUTH LOWE and ADELINE RUTH LOWE.

You never know maybe Adeline Ruth met Ernest HOPE (Cannon?) while he was performing in Victoria.  Just a wild guess.

I think it's interesting how James Richard BOW and Ernest ?? are both entertainers.  Possibly moved in the same circles or heard of each other. 

Fun to speculate.  Thanks everyone so much for your time and help.  It's quite a story Dianna

[sparrett]

Good to have the Bow sibling part worked through.
Sue

[haney]

Yes Sue. Agreed.  Now I'm checking on Rate Books in Victoria "just in case" then maybe shipping records from Vic to Sydney.  LOL Onwards and Upwards Dianna

[sparrett]

As for that newspaper report with the whole Ernie King Brother to James R BOW. I think that is just really bad reporting, that is very confusing when you read it and contradictory.

How Violet wrote to an Ernerst King and the mother intercepted the reply etc etc makes no sense to me at all.

So I'm not going to worry about that too much.

I do agree that this aspect of the reporting is not directly relevant to your search.
However I do note that Emma (nee Petersen ) ROBBINS had a difficult life.
Born 1871 in Ballarat (*21078) she had Violet b. 1894 (*8553) before her marriage to Arthur ROBBINS.

She seems to have had a number of children, some of whom registered with father stated (Arthur) and some with not stated.

The last of these birth registrations was Vera Ida Winifred in 1918 (aged 48).

She was known as a widow by 1910 according to a court report in that year.
The reason I look at this is to support the likelihood that she may have been keen to marry off Violet and may have been prepared to go to extremes to see it done, including forging the bride groom's signature and intercepting mal that might change Violet's mind 

Sue

[haney]

Oh that is interesting and I tend to agree with you there.  There seems to have been a lot "plotting and scheming" going on there with that marriage to a practical stranger.  The things people do.  Thanks Dianna

[Dundee]

BOW was a travelling performer with Ditchams Travelling show when he came to Burnie.
He said he was Ernie King’s brother who lived in Hobart.  Violet wrote to Ernie and he said "don’t marry Bow.  He has a wife and child."
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/50470198?searchTerm=%22%20ernie%20king%22

Sue

He didn't say that Ernie KING lived in Hobart, just that he was there.

"At witness' house on the first evening she met defendant he told her he was Ernie King's brother, and that the latter was in Hobart."

Violet and James met in December 1910, 2 weeks before they married in Jan 1911.  At that time, Ern/Ernest CANNON was performing at the Temperance Hall in Hobart which Marino LUCAS had reopened after renovations.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/178317407

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10086317

Debra 

[sparrett]

CANNON was also performing Jan 3rd 1911
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/186997861?searchTerm=%22ern%20acrobat%22~5

And mentioned again on Mon 11th Jan 1911
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10087217?searchTerm=%22ern%20acrobat%22~5

Sue

EDIT: So plenty of time to get a letter to him and get and answer.

[haney]

Yes strange coincidence this Ern Cannon, then he is in Sydney about 1912.  Hmmmm.  I will go through the newspapers again tomorrow and track Erns movements through the different states.  He seems to be in Sydney from memory in 1912 and first child Daphne Theresa was born in 1913.

I'm still wondering if Ern Cannon is really Ernest William Hope!!!  If I could only find a photo of Ern Cannon that would clinch it.  I posted a photo of Ernest Hope didn't I.  Definately Indian Heritage.  Thanks again.  Dianna