ERNEST HOPE Acrobat

[sparrett]

I was thinking about Ernest HOPE today.

Were you ever able to make any contact with the children or grandchildren of his wife Sarah Jane nee TOWELL?

Reginald C (b. 1914) and Leslie Roy (b.1912) were probably children of JACKSON and their births were registered in the 3 surnames, JACKSON, TOWELL and HOPE.
Arthur, (b.1918) was registered under 2 surnames TOWELL and HOPE (no JACKSON).

I would think the HOPE amendment signified that Ernest HOPE was taking the parental role for these children at his marriage to Sarah Jane.

Indeed when Arthur C enlisted he gives his NOK Ernest HOPE. Stepfather,

A woman named Marjorie Jean HOPE married Cyril Thomas HENNESS in 1952 (#9191). Both now deceased.
She says Arthur is her brother in a letter contained in his Service file after his death.

The reason I mention all this that conversations with people related to Ernest HOPE whether by a step relationship or by direct family, may have recollections of him that would help you.

Sue

[haney]

HI Sue
    Yes I have been in touch with some. One of them is my nieces husband Rodney, He and I talk about Ernerst a lot as he knows I am trying to find Ernerts Origins.

   He is the Grandson of the Marjorie Henness (nee Hope) you've mentioned.

    I don't see that anyone has considered the ERNEST CANNON we have been discussing so far.

    There still maybe a connection there!

    I have the families recollections as Ernest Spoke (some) Hindi, called his wife Sarah Memsarb, which I believe is a respectfull term for a lady.

    I think he had Malaria as well and that he was a  Street performer in India.

    Someone in the family has a photo of Ernie balancing on chairs or something like that and I have asked Rod for a photo of this.  The more information I gather the better it (maybe).

    I've finalised the family group sheet with the blended families just so I can keep it all straight in my head.

    I will keep on trying to fill the gaps between 1916 when Ernie applied to join the army and when he and Adeline split up.

   I have now her son Reginald Percival marriage in 1936 and she signed as giving permission as Adeline Ruth HOPE and I now have another photo of Reginald P.  He was living at 106 Buckland Street Alexandria. 

Also I don't know when Adeline started living with Robert Edward Walton.  He died in 1946.

That's my goal anyway tracking these movements either by Sands Directory, Electoral Rolls or Rate Books.  It takes a lot of time doesn't it. Thanks for your time.  Regards Dianna

[haney]

Some of the Sands Directories I have from a while ago.  I don't know if there is anything earlier than these.  Dianna

[sparrett]

The only reflection I have on the link between Ern Cannon and Ernest W F Hope is this.

 If the WW1 enlistee (who wrote then struck through his surname) was born in 1888 to 1890, he would be in his early 40's when he was performing in the Earlwood streets in 1932.

He would need to be continually practising and training to maintain fitness and skill for this.
How would he do that?
 
Does it all seem a little unlikely somehow.
Sue

[Dundee]

Just reading back on the older threads, did you ever get this birth cert to see what information is given about the father?

Did you know that Adeline's son Leonard Ernest BOW born Nov 1910 was not actually a BOW?

KING, Leonard Ernt Phil
Mother: Adeline Ruth WATT
Father: Ernt
CARLTON
1911
1423/1911

WATT was the maiden surname of Adeline's mother and considering the child's names I would say that your Ernest was the father, moonlighting as Ernest KING.

That makes this account of Adeline's husband's bigamy case very interesting reading.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/64439738

Debra 

Debra 

[sparrett]

This observation from Debra makes the third time I have seen Ernest Phillip as a name in this 

When giving her consent Adeline states on the 1936 marriage of son Reginald Percy, that she is mother and the Father of Reginald is Ernest Phillip

The father of Ernest William Francis on his marriage reg.to TOWELL is Ernest Phillip

At his marriage EWF Hope did not know his mother’s name in any part.

Sue

[haney]

Hi
  Yes I thought that may be Leonard Ernest King.  Even though his birth date is given on his service record as 1910.  Easy to make those mistakes.

He died in 1942 from wounds he received.  His wife was Frances Eden BECUS.  He married her as Bow in 1930 so the whole King surname has not been recognised!

He most probably would have needed permission to marry as well.  Interesting.  Shame there is no death certificate for him.

I don't know why Adeline Ruth would be using her mothers name for the birth of this child.  Would she not have registered as BOW or LOWE.

Besides Ruth already had a son born in South Australia called Leonard Harold.  Hmmm tricky isn't it.

I'm reading through the newspaper report again and I cannot understand what's going on with this Violet.

She wrote to an Ernie King or King, brother?? of this James BOW.  Doesn't make much sense does it.

In another report Ruth LOWE says that James BOW is her husband.  WOW.  How confusing.

Need to find more on the ERNIE KING or whoever he is.  LOL Dianna

[haney]

Picture of Adeline and three of the kids.

[haney]

From the Gazette.  This James Bow sounds like a pest.  LOL