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Re: Sent from the UK to the US for medical treatment
« Reply #9 on: Friday 22 August 25 14:33 BST (UK) »
I thought CaroleW was annoyed that I was giving information in response to you saying that you hadn't seen the 1939 register, so I'm not really sure what was meant by her comment.

I don't know what the rules on there were for giving employment information.  Maybe he had done that work in the past, or maybe he had an employer who gave him very limited work to do to keep him busy and feeling like he was productive.  It's probably one of those things where you can only make a best guess.

I didn't see any passenger list that seemed to fit with him going to the US, but I don't know if they're 100% comprehensive for that era. 

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Re: Sent from the UK to the US for medical treatment
« Reply #10 on: Friday 22 August 25 17:20 BST (UK) »
My comment re the 1939 register was based on my thoughts that a cow keeper would have to be a relatively fit person given the size & weight of cows - plus their unpredictability.

The description of his disabilities - particularly the paralysis - didn’t seem to fit that type of occupation nor did wearing a leg iron or having a stiff arm.

However - I don’t know what period Ranolki was spending time with him so it may be that his condition had worsened after 1939.
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Re: Sent from the UK to the US for medical treatment
« Reply #11 on: Friday 22 August 25 18:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks.  I was born after he had that operation so my memories are only of the effects from that.  He was quite a lot older than my father and always lived at home with his parents.  My father often commented that he may have been disabled but he had an acid tongue and kept his younger siblings in order!  He was still not self-sufficient though and the highlight of his life was an annual trip with the Red Cross to various centres in places like Northallerton.  They weren't hotels - I think they may have been a type of hostel for people with disabilities.  My grandmother was effectively his carer throughout and he only left home to marry.  I think at that point my grandmother felt her usefulness was over and she died not long afterwards. I also think that despite everything he was still contented with his lot, which is heartening given his problems.

I was very close to him as a child, he was a real countryman despite being so disabled.  We used to go everywhere together, me holding his hand to slow him down and him speeding along with his lurching limp.  He would send me off into the hedgerows looking for bird nests, dormice and lost golfballs in the local woods. People didn't understand him and I became his translator, even with cousins who didn't see him as often as me.  It would probably be seen as very strange in today's climate I suppose...  But I DO know he hadn't worked since he was a teenager and if his disabilities after the operation were an improvement then I can only assume he was severely impaired beforehand.

I don't think all that many people were sent to the US for the operation so I'm assuming they were selected for either the severity of their disability or after some sort of assessment of likely success. It was very experimental, and looking at how they re-sectioned nerves etc, it was dangerous too.  I'm trying to find numbers and I have seen mention of 30, although at the moment I'm not sure if that is per group sent or a total. From my memories of him, he would have been pretty fearless about being one of the people taking part.  It seems the NHS in those early days (this would have been right around its inception) didn't generally send people overseas so the whole thing will have been funded by either donations or a charity.  All avenues to explore but I wanted to see if I could find him actually travelling and find some dates etc.

In fact I've just found an interesting one on Family Search, arriving into NY by AIR in December 1949 (apparently via Bermuda).  It seems to suggest an Army connection so it may not fit, but I'm heartened to find a start!

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Re: Sent from the UK to the US for medical treatment
« Reply #12 on: Friday 22 August 25 21:06 BST (UK) »
Also, having checked the NYC address given (the SSMC & A club in Manhattan) and info on that club, there is every likelihood they would have accommodated the son of a WWl veteran or siblings of WW2 servicemen (both applied) in his circumstances.  So this December 1949 arrival may well be him.  I'll see if I can find anything about him going home again...


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Re: Sent from the UK to the US for medical treatment
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 August 25 14:21 BST (UK) »
I've since spoken to an older cousin who remembers visiting him as a small child in London after a SECOND operation in around 1951/52.  She remembers he was brought outside to see them.  The operation there was ultimately unsuccessful.  It seems this may have been the National Neurological Hospital in Bloomsbury or possibly he was at the recovery hospital in Wimbledon.  Both had outside areas for visitors.  And both seem to have records available to check.  So, depending on what I can find there, it may refer to the initial procedure in the US too and possibly pin down the dates.  I still like the December 1949 arrival as being potentially him though, although I don't see anything about him returning to theUK at the moment.  I understand the records are not totally complete though...