Sergeant Major Charles Edward Nesbitt-Clarke

[Dundee]

He married in 1908, stating his father was Ralph Clark , of independent means.
I want to find his birth, supposedly born 1884. December? Mother is supposedly Lily Nesbitt

Where has the mother's name come from?  The birth found in 1889 has the mother as Lilian (not Lily) NESBITT.

Debra 

[JenB]

He married in 1908, stating his father was Ralph Clark , of independent means.
I want to find his birth, supposedly born 1884. December? Mother is supposedly Lily Nesbitt

Where has the mother's name come from?  The birth found in 1889 has the mother as Lilian (not Lily) NESBITT.

Debra 

I don't see any reference to a Lily or a birth in December 1884 on the earlier thread 

[Bellas girl]

Jen,

To be honest, I can’t remember where I got that name from. I have been researching this family for a while, and this guy has driven me mad ! Perhaps I dreamt


I am now going to read the thread through again, perhaps something will jump out at me. I can’t remember where the birth in 1889, mother Lilian Nesbitt came from either…

Thank you for your input.

[amondg]

It came from the GRO Index

Charles Nesbitt Clark Reg. Islington1889 December quarter Vol 01B page 230 mother's maiden name

Nesbitt.

[JenB]

I can’t remember where the birth in 1889, mother Lilian Nesbitt came from either…

You purchased the certificate, details here https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=891049.msg7650771#msg7650771

[jonwarrn]

Bertha seems to have been admitted several times to Islington Workhouse

St John's Road Workhouse. There are some other admission records hidden away on ancestry, they don't have much detail, but some extra info here and there.
For 10 April 1912
Bertha Clarke, 24, Married, admitted from 8 Waterloo Buildings
Husband Edward deserted
No. of Case Paper 345

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/1557/images/47015_553012-00386

Other entries say she was homeless, again reference the case paper.

That could be the key, find case paper 345. If Bertha's husband had deserted her, they would have wanted to know all about him.

[Bellas girl]

My, You have been busy!

Thank you all SO much. I am so very grateful. I took today off, because I just didn’t sleep last night, thinking of all this.

I think it may be correct that Nellie was a paramour, and maybe why the marriage broke down.

Jonwarn. Thank you for finding those workhouse entries. Answaers a lot. I know that there son, Edward Stephen, was born and baptised in Islington workhouse, but had not found his mother’s details…Poor lady

Amondg !!
You marvellous wonderful person. THANK YOU. It seems you have found the certificate, that will solve this mystery. I have been looking for MONTHS for this.
My next task tonight is to send for it.

Can’t thank everyone enough for your help.

JeannieR
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[Dundee]

You already have the birth certificate.

 ***Up Date***

I could stand it no longer, so I have got a digital copy of the birth certificate .
Here goes

November 2nd 1889
87 St John’s Road. Charles Nesbit/ Boy/Father Charles Clark/ Mother Lilian Clark/
Formally Nesbit / Fathers Occupation Amalgamated Gold Mining Company /Registered by mother / 20th November 1889.

I jut hope this is the right guy, but don’t know where Ralph comes into it.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=891049.63

Debra