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Anyone recognise this place name
« on: Monday 18 August 25 19:17 BST (UK) »
Does anyone recognise the residence of John Rice in the attached, it looks like Codsnea? A strange name. The gravestone is in Llanllawddog, some trees say he died Llangeler. Thanks.

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Re: Anyone recognise this place name
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 August 25 19:31 BST (UK) »
there's a circumflex above the o, so the first part is probably coed. There was a Coedstrae-uchaf in Llangeler. 

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01txf/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Anyone recognise this place name
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 August 25 19:42 BST (UK) »
Admin of his estate to his widow Joyce. Name given as Coedstread.

https://viewer.library.wales/427238#?xywh=-3237%2C-920%2C9220%2C5232

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 August 25 20:06 BST (UK) »
Excellent work. Thank you Osprey!

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Re: Anyone recognise this place name
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 August 25 20:13 BST (UK) »
it was only me.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Anyone recognise this place name
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 August 25 22:34 BST (UK) »
Also found the attached below. Though I can’t understand “Thomas jones oldest son and heir apparent of Joice Rice by the late Hector Jones”. Is this implying Joice had an illegitimate son Thomas with Hector Jones? https://archifdy-ceredigion.org.uk/sched/adx.1360.html

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 August 25 22:43 BST (UK) »
Found this bond, https://viewer.library.wales/776533 which adds to the confusion, or maybe clarifies things. It is for Hector Jones of Llangeller and mentions his wife Joice and is from 1752. John Rice died 1761, so I am thinking Joice was first marriage to Hector Jones and had a son Thomas and after Hector’s death Joice married John Rice?

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 August 25 23:07 BST (UK) »
Found the Will of Thomas Jones of Coedstrea Ucha 1826 https://viewer.library.wales/937032. Thanks again to Osprey for setting me off on this path. Though I can’t seem to find either marriage for Joyce

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Re: Anyone recognise this place name
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 August 25 18:27 BST (UK) »
Not sure that there are lot of Carmarthenshire marriages online from the period. There's this possible marriage bond for Hector Jones of Llangoedmor & Joyce Howells of Llangeler

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01txn/

And this one for John Rice of Carmarthen & Joyce Jones, widow, of Llangeler.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01txp/

Think the date is of the bond, not the marriage. But usually there wouldn't be much of a gap.

Availability of Llangeler parish records here. Haven't spotted either marriage on FreeReg.
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CMN/Llangeler#ChurchRecords
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb
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