Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland

[Neale1961]

Wilson McIntyre in 1861 census, Greenock
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59ef9a2bf4040b559686fea3/wilson-mcintyre-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1840-?locale=en

Wilson and wife and son are in 24 East - Shaw St, Greenock in 1891 census.

John McIntyre in 1861 census, Greenock
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59c54961f4040bbce0d16efd/john-mcintyre-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1836-?locale=en

[Neale1961]

You can view a transcription of the 1881 Greenock census on SP at no cost.
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/image-viewer/census_lds/census_lds-0bf60a11-b53e-4a94-8da1-f31f8d68eecc?search_token=174667064968a300c2c7573&row=row_0&sort=asc&order=Birth%20Place&from_page=3

[aghadowey]

A Thomas McIntyre & Mary Jane Ches[t]nut[t] of Ballygally [Ballygawley] had a son Wilson in 1882-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1882/02786/2022641.pdf

The marriage has his father as Thomas McIntyre, labourer (deceased). The groom living in the townland of Movenis outside Garvagh-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1861/09607/5483836.pdf
IF the deceased father Thomas was the husband of Catherine Dogherty then it means he died before registration of births in Ireland.

IF this Thomas McIntyre is connected to the family in question then I'm pretty sure I have lots of details on them in my files.

[Neale1961]

Information re your McIntyre family from 1851 census search request.

Parents - Thomas and Kate McIntyre
Bovagh, Aghadowey, Coleraine
Children – William, John, Thomas, Wilson, Nancy (Annie), Mary Jane, Catherine, Elizabeth
https://censussearchforms.nationalarchives.ie/reels/c19/007246693/007246693_01255.pdf

[Neale1961]

I’m not too sure about Mary McIntyre, as I have a baptism record in 1852 in Greenock ( which would match her age on the marriage record ) and her parents are listed as Thomas McIntyre and Catherine Docherty.

I think you need to take a closer look at this record. What you have posted is too small to read and is only a snip. According to the indexing on SP this baptism took place on 19 Dec 1874, for a Mary born in 1852. So the person was baptised at the age of 22. It could be your Mary deciding to be baptised RC after she had married in the Church of Scotland. I’m not sure it progresses your search much anyway.

[Neale1961]

…. census record I believe showing them in 1921 on Greenock shows John to be born in Londonderry and Mary to be born in Movile, Donegal.

Are you sure that is what is recorded on the 1921 census? I think we have ascertained that Mary was from Londonderry. So was John Cassidy from Moville?

Have you looked at the 1911 census to see place of birth?
Note spelling in 1911 census is CASSIDAY
Reference - 564/2 13/ 7  Greenock West

[Neale1961]

From the marriage record, it looks as if John Cassidy either did not know his parents’ names, or did not want to give detail that might give away an illegitimate birth.
It is difficult to know if the information about his parents on his death cert. is correct.

[aghadowey]

I spent quite a bit of time extracting bits of information from my files and searching online records and the 1851 census extract shows I seem to have found all 8 of the McIntyre children. Brief outline-

Thomas McIntyre (d.bef.1861?) m. Catherine Doherty (c1813-1885 Coleraine)
1.   William McIntyre m.(1856) Elizabeth Wallace- family
2.   John McIntyre (c1834 Ire.-1863 Scot.)
3.   Thomas McIntyre (c1835-1890 Bovagh) m.(1861) Mary Jane Chestnutt- family
4.   Wilson McIntyre (c1841 Ire.-1900 Scot.) m.(1862) Jane Gage
5.   Annie/Nancy McIntyre (c1851-aft.1911)
6.   Mary Jane McIntyre (c1852-1921 Scot.) m.(1873) John Cassidy
7.   Catherine McIntyre (c1857-aft.1901) m.(1871) John O’Brien- family
8.   Elizabeth “Eliza” McIntyre m.(1888) William Letson. Family

2.   John McIntyre (c1834 Ire.-1863)
1861 Census: https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59c54961f4040bbce0d16efd/john-mcintyre-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1836-?locale=en (John McIntyre, 25, born Ire.)
Death: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS6P-NL9V?lang=en

4. Wilson McIntyre (c1841 Ire.-1900 Scot.) m.(1862 Greenock) Jane “Jeanie” Gage (d.1905)
Birth: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TLL-4441?lang=en
1861 Census: https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59ef9a2bf4040b559686fea3/wilson-mcintyre-1861-renfrewshire-greenock-1840-?locale=en (lodger Wilson McIntyre, 21, born Ire.)
Greenock Telegraph, 20 Sept.1900: Wilson McIntyre, husband of Jane, died at 14 Blackhall Street, Greenock on 18th September 1900 age 58.
Greenock Telegraph, 20 Feb.1905: Jeanie Gage, widow of Wilson McIntyre, died at 9 Bearhope Street, Greenock on 19th February 1905.
I haven't looked for further records of Wilson in Scotland.

5.   Annie/Nancy McIntyre (c1851-aft.1911)
1901- Annie with sister Catherine; 1911- Nancy with O’Brien family

More to follow when I get back home.

Regarding Mary Jane's birthplace- she was almost certainly born in Co. Londonderry, Ireland not Co, Donegal.
The baptism in Dec.1879 is interesting. Mary Jane McIntyre (Church of Ireland) married John Cassidy in Scotland in 1874 and son born Aug.1879 in Ireland. A few months later there is the adult baptism- wonder if son was baptised in Ireland or Scotland as a Catholic around that time.

Added- no baptism for John Cassidy in Errigal or Coleraine R.C. parishes in 1879. Unfortunately St. Guaire's (COI), Aghadowey baptisms don't start until 1882. St. Paul's (COI), Garvagh baptisms start 1873 but are in local custody.

[Neale1961]

The baptism in Dec.1879 1874 is interesting. Mary Jane McIntyre (Church of Ireland) married John Cassidy in Scotland in 1874 1873 and son born Aug.1879 1874 in Ireland. A few months later there is the adult baptism- wonder if son was baptised in Ireland or Scotland as a Catholic around that time.

All Cassidy children were baptised RC in Greenock. So John was RC and Mary Jane converted after marriage.

John Cassidy burial was at RC Greenock St Mary's
JOHN CASSIDY
Male   72
Death 25/10/1926
Burial 28/10/1926
Greenock, St Mary's