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Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« on: Sunday 17 August 25 23:53 BST (UK) »
Hello,

I was hoping someone could help me uncover information on my Maternal Cassidy side, my Great x3 Grandfather John Cassidy married my Great x3 Grandmother Mary McIntyre, in Greenock 1873, John Cassidy is said to have been born in Ireland, to John Cassidy, who was a soldier, and Elizabeth McLaughlin, sometime in the early 1850s (as per his death certificate in 1926 Greenock, his parents are not listed on his marriage certificate) I would be very appreciative for anything regarding him, or his parents, as I’m rather stuck , not entirely sure if he himself was Protestant or Catholic, but his marriage to Mary McIntyre was a Catholic ceremony, I’m not too sure about Mary McIntyre, as I have a baptism record in 1852 in Greenock ( which would match her age on the marriage record ) and her parents are listed as Thomas McIntyre and Catherine Docherty (same as marriage record) but her death record in 1928 has parents listed as William McIntyre and Mary Docherty, and then a census record I believe showing them in 1921 on Greenock shows John to be born in Londonderry and Mary to be born in Movile, Donegal.

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Jake

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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 August 25 00:29 BST (UK) »
If she is the same person, the marriage names would be more reliable as she herself would have supplied them.
Coffey, Cummins [Rathfalla, Tipperary], Cummins [Skirke, Laois], Curran, Delan(e)y (Laois), Dillon [Clare], Fogarty [Garran, Laois/Tipp], Hughes, Keshan (Keeshan), Loughman [Harristown and Killadooley, Laois], Mallon [Armagh], Malone, Markham [Caherkine, Clare], McKeon(e) [Sligo/Kilkenny/Waterford], McNamara, Meagher, Prescott [Kilkenny/Waterford/Wexford?], Rafferty, Ryan, Sullivan, Tobin
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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 August 25 02:08 BST (UK) »
Can you please post the marriage certificate, so we have ALL information that is included.

You have supplied very little – ages?, occupations?, address?, witnesses?

Marriage -
CASSIDY   JOHN   to       MCINTYRE   MARY   
1873   564 / 3 / 301   Greenock Old or West
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 August 25 02:20 BST (UK) »
The census records tell you that BOTH John Cassidy AND Mary Jane McIntyre were born in Ireland.


Their first son John, was born in Ireland in 1874. Looks as if Mary Jane went home for the birth of her first child, (not uncommon).

See the birth record
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1874/03141/2151737.pdf

Catherine McIntyre was informant on the birth. That could be the maternal grandmother.
Take notice of the address.

Mettican
https://www.townlands.ie/londonderry/coleraine/errigal/garvagh/mettican-glebe/
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 August 25 09:13 BST (UK) »
Most, if not all, of the McIntyres in the area around Mettican that I have come across were either Presbyterian or Church of Ireland.
To complicate things further, there are no McIntyres listed in Mettican Glebe in the Valuation Revision Books 1865 to 1880 which means that Catherine McIntyre was living in someone else's household.
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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 18 August 25 10:39 BST (UK) »
I have found some other members of the McIntyre family in Garvagh, Coleraine, County Londonderry

Marriage of Catherine McIntyre of Mettican in 1871
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1871/11350/8166595.pdf

This is Catherine and her family in 1901 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Londonderry/Coleraine/North_Brook_Street/1518339/
Note there is also Annie McIntyre (Catherine’s sister)


Possible death of the mother Catherine McIntyre age 70 in 1883
Note that daughter Annie is the informant.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06356/4823564.pdf
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 18 August 25 10:53 BST (UK) »
Hello all,

Thank you for the help so far, one error from my original post, the marriage to John Cassidy was actually within the church of Scotland (mix up with their son James)
These are all the documents I have regarding both. I have their marriage certificate, along with John Cassidy's death certificate, and then Mary McIntyre's death certificate, along with a baptism record for a Mary McIntyre in Greenock, with a Thomas McIntyre and Catherine Docherty listed as parents, year of baptism would match year of birth going by marriage record, could she have been born in Ireland and baptised in Scotland? I also have an 1891 census showing the family, minus the son born John born in Ireland, showing them living in Greenock and both John and Mary listed as being born in Ireland, living with their children Catherine, James, Mary and Thomas, all born in Greenock.

Kind regards,
Jake

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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Monday 18 August 25 11:07 BST (UK) »
Another child?
Wilson McIntyre born c1841 son of Thomas McIntyre & Catherine Docherty-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6TLL-4441?lang=en
Another child?
John McIntyre (c1834-1863)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XS6P-NL9V?lang=en
If that is the same family then parents married well before civil registration of marriages in Ireland.

There was a Thomas McIntyre/Catherine Doherty marriage in Ireland but as it's in 1881 it can be ruled out.
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Re: Cassidy/McIntyre Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 August 25 11:17 BST (UK) »
Annie (Nancy) McIntyre still with O'Brien family in Coleraine in 1911-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Coleraine/Circular_Road/589424/

The O'Briens do have a headstone in Coleraine Cemetery- [not sure if link will work]
https://billiongraves.com/images?t=rec24407140&col=1&cat=299087&rec=24407140
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