Can't find grandfather's history anywhere

[heywood]

I think you have to order by post. Here is the GRO site with an email address for help.
https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate

Someone else may know more information.

[~MERLIN~]

There is a Probate for Theodore available for purchase and download for 1.50 GBP which is about $3 AUD which might be worth looking at.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

Last Name: BURKAT
First Name/s: Theodore Arno   
Date of Death: 18 June 1997   
Date of Probate: 11 September 2001   
Probate Numer: 758954   
Document Type: ADMINISTRATION   
Registry Office: Cardiff

[LizzieL]

There is a Probate for Theodore available for purchase and download for 1.50 GBP which is about $3 AUD which might be worth looking at.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

Last Name: BURKAT
First Name/s: Theodore Arno   
Date of Death: 18 June 1997   
Date of Probate: 11 September 2001   
Probate Numer: 758954   
Document Type: ADMINISTRATION   
Registry Office: Cardiff

Administration usually means no will. You would probably get the name of who applied for LOA but no more

[softly softly]

Info only.

Fritz/Frederick Fries was registered with surname Frier in 1896. This was corrected in 1929 and re-registered as Frederick Fries. Also at the same time his sister Eleanor Maud was re-registered., both with mmn Harrison.

HARRISON, MARTHA       mmn SLATER 
GRO Reference: 1870  M Quarter in DUDLEY  Volume 06C  Page 88

SS

[heywood]

Just musing.

Bertha Burkat is with her mother in late 1930s -1939  register and electoral registers.
Then she marries in 1945 in Caerleon. Why the move? There were evacuees there but Bertha was an adult.

Nelly Burkat marries in 1949 in Caerleon.

It is thought by the family that ‘Burkat’ was a made up name - yet two women in the same place shared it.

Nelly’s marriage certificate should give her previous name and father’s name.
Theodore’s marriage certificate should give his father’s name.

It has already been asked but what about Otto?

[mckha489]

I think you have to order by post. Here is the GRO site with an email address for help.
https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate

Someone else may know more information.

Yes. Unfortunately marriages have not been digitised, and also can’t be ordered as a PDF as births and deaths can.

 You will have to get the reference numbers for the marriages from FreeBMD. Plug them in to the order certificate section at GRO (you have to register, at least that part is free!) and wait for the post to arrive.

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Following with great interest.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

We are investing a lot of time in researching Bertha, yet we do not know how or if she is connected to Nelly.

But there's likely to be a connection as Ernest Burkat is living in the same house as some of Bertha's Woodhouse stepsons in 1964

[heywood]

Mabel, Ernest is Bertha’s son so living with his step brothers.

Really, it is Nelly and her son Theodore who is the focus. A son Otto is also mentioned.

[heywood]

I have just remembered the child born to Nelly and Donald Thomas - reply #26

He has mother’s maiden name of Burkat - was Nelly a Burkat by birth?

Sorry, if this was discussed earlier.