Mungo Haldane of Gleneagles

[dunvr]

Haven't got around to checking the dates I think for Auchterareder there are gaps in the 1600s there should be Mungo baptized 1660s / 70s but there isn't. There is possible siblings though the couple Mungo Haldane and Margaret Graham seem to be a good fit to be his parents.

[dunvr]

MUNGO HALDAN & ELIZ. THOMSON 1694 marriage at Auchterarder I extracted it just for a look and looks like a different place name.

[David Nicoll]

 No place name there, just proclaimed that I can see.
But as I said earlier, you need to build trees for them all and find where they were if possible.

[dunvr]

That one may very well be the grandson of Mungo Haldane of Gleneagles who married an Elizabeth see in list below. I may have to look at all the families I am not sure on the one in DUN with father Mungo.

Mungo Haldane of Gleneagles
Born c.1636 died 1685.
Married 1st to Anne/Anna Grant who died c.1662 with whom he had three children:
1. John his heir who married Mary Drummond.
2. David who married Mary Graham
3. Margaret who married Patrick Murray of Ochtertyre

Married 2nd to Margaret Gray who died c,1680
with whom had one child
1. Janet who married Patrick Smythe

David (above) Born 1661 died 1738 had three children with Mary Graham
1. John (died 1736) married Anne Ross with whom had three children
a. David, b. Patrick died (c. 1735), c. Elizabeth
2. Patrick
3. Mungo married Elizabeth with whom had three children
a. John (died 1803), b. George (died 1758)
c. Robert (died1826),

[Forfarian]

One wonders how come these Mungo's are appearing so close by to the Gleneagles estate yet no baptism found.

The simplest answer is that the record of the baptism, if such a record ever existed, has not survived.

Possible reasons for a baptism record being missing
- the parents omitted to have the child baptised
- the child was baptised in a religious denomination other than Church of Scotland and no-one reported it to the C of S
- the minister baptised the child but forgot to tell the Session Clerk about it
- the Session Clerk neglected to make an entry in the register of baptisms
- a record was made but part or all of the register was lost or damaged

The further back you go, the more records have failed to survive.

The important thing is never to assume that, just because something looks right and there's no other likely candidate in the surviving records, it actually is right.

[dunvr]

I think I have the link to Gleneagles discovered with this entry

National Records of Scotland (NRS) Entry

    Reference: GD198/148

    Collection: Papers of the Haldane family of Gleneagles

    Date: 24 April 1692

    Document Type: Bond of Provision / Disposition of Annual Rent

    Entry Details: > "Disposition and Assignation by Mungo Haldane of Gleneagles [13th Laird] in favour of Mungo Haldane, son to the deceased William Haldane of Myreton, of an annual rent of 400 merks Scots, to be uplifted from the lands and barony of Gleneagles, following the marriage contract between the said Mungo and Janet Leishman."

[David Nicoll]

Good find, now you just need to work out the relationship between William and the said Mungo!

Happy Hunting.

[dunvr]

Thanks I found the link William Haldane of Myreton was one of the younger sons of the Laird of Gleneagles.