Harmer Rogers c1753

[DianaCanada]

You probably know about the Harmer Family Association which has a website and lots of Harmer info. It started covering the Sussex Harmers (my line), I think it was over 30 years ago, and branched out to Harmers in Norfolk and Gloucestershire, who are probably unrelated to the Sussex lot.

[Ili1133]

This 1736 will (Susanna Bacon) confirms the Harmer/Rogers family connection through Catherine.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJN-XSCS?view=fullText&keywords=Joseph%20Rogers&lang=en&groupId=

jonwarrn is right, there may be other clues if you use full text search on Family Search to examine the Norfolk records.

[jonwarrn]

there may be other clues if you use full text search on Family Search to examine the Norfolk records.

Another clue? From 1764
Hannah Bird, of Norwich Spinster make this my will as follows, I Give to Ann Harmer and Mary Harmer Daughters of Mr Harmer Baker in Bear street thirty pounds apiece, To miss(?) Nicholls my friend and companion one hundred pounds To, Joseph Rogers Surgeon twenty pounds
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C39F-51ZW?view=fullText&keywords=Joseph%20Rogers&lang=en&groupId=

[Ili1133]

And this manor record suggests that Joseph inherited copyhold land from the Harmers for life after Diana died in 1771 …

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DR73-NHR?view=fullText&keywords=Joseph%20Rogers&lang=en&groupId=M9S7-W1T

[Ili1133]

According to this record Harmer is Joseph’s eldest son

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-D1PQ-LQS?view=fullText&keywords=Harmer%20Rogers&lang=en&groupId=

[Ili1133]

Do we know when Joseph died? He may not have been in Norfolk, as the manorial records describe him as of Pinner, Middlesex.

[maddys52]

Do we know when Joseph died? He may not have been in Norfolk, as the manorial records describe him as of Pinner, Middlesex.

Is this the correct Joseph ROGERS? Died in 1806.

"Yesterday se'nnight died at Swaffham, aged 84, Joseph ROGERS, Gent, formerly a surgeon and apothecary of this city"
Wednesday,  Nov. 26, 1806
Publication: Bury and Norwich Post

[coombs]

Typing in "Harmer Rogers" into the FamilySearch text search, I have found several results which will keep us entertained for a while. Court records for North Walsham, Paston, Knapton etc. It does seem Harmer is the son of Joseph after all, even though an obvious baptism cannot yet be found.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/results?count=20&q.text=%22harmer%20rogers%22

[petey22]

After working my way through all the links and searching further I have come up with:

Willus Harmer c1655 and Elizabetha Payne marry 23-06-1679 at Swafield, Norfolk.
They have children:
Elizabetha Harmer, bap 13-05-1680, Swafield
Willus Harmer, bap 23-08-1682, Swafield
Sara Harmer, b 21-01-1682, bap 04-02-1682, Swafield, † buried 07-08-1690, Swafield
Johes Harmer, bap 25-01-1684, Swafield
Nicholaus Harmer, b 16-01-1688, bap 20-01-1688, Swafied
Sara Harmer, bap 17-08-1691, Swafield
Ricardus Harmer, bap 12-09-1693, Swafield
Diana Harmer, b11-08-1695, bap 16-08-1695, Swafield

So This must be the John (Johes) Harmer we have been looking for