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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 August 25 10:05 BST (UK) »
On googlebooks I came across the 'History, Gazetteer and Directory of Suffolk, and the Towns- Page 407'  the mention of John Harmer, druggist at Wrentham in Suffolk, this is the same place as mentioned on the baptism of:

i. Elizabeth Rogers, bap 19-05-1751, Old Meeting (Independent) Norwich,
parents Joseph and Elizabeth Rogers of Wrentham.

Were Joseph Rogers and John Harmer working together back in 1751 at Wrentham, Suffolk? Still trying to work out the significance of this link ???

jonwarrn, I think you are defiantly on the right track and that John Harmer plays a large part in this story !  ::)
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https://www.google.nl/books/edition/History_Gazetteer_and_Directory_of_Suffo/ZgxIAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=John+Harmer+surgeon+Norwich&pg=PA407&printsec=frontcover
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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 August 25 11:27 BST (UK) »
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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 19 August 25 10:13 BST (UK) »
Looking at the will of John Harmer, there is not very much information other than that he is a Surgeon in the city of Norwich and leaves everything to Joseph Rogers also a surgeon of the same city.

There are 3 dates noted, it seems the will was written 08 September 1752, witmessed 29 dec(?) 1755 and executed(?) 14-04-1768. Does this mean that John Harmer died shortly before 1768?
This would be handy in working out which John Harmer is this John Harmer on my list  ;D

https://nrocatalogue.norfolk.gov.uk/index.php/harmer-john-of-norwich-2
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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 19 August 25 10:41 BST (UK) »
John HARMER died in 1755

"Norwich ... On Wednesday last died Mr. John Harmer, formerly an eminent surgeon and man-midwife in this city in which he aquired great reputation. He had retired from business several years."
 
Saturday,  Dec. 27, 1755
Publication: Read's Weekly Journal Or British Gazetteer


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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 19 August 25 14:15 BST (UK) »
Wow  :o That's him, thanks very much,,, so he died on Wednesday 24th dec 1755 on Christmas eve.

I have 3x burials on my list for a John Harmer in 1755:
burial 17-11-1755 St. Margret's, Westminster, London.
burial 21-12-1755, St. Andrews, Norwich, Norfolk.
burial 20-01-1755, Southrepps, Norfolk 
???



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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 23 August 25 15:30 BST (UK) »
I did find a burial on FindMyPast for a John Harmer, surgeon in Norwich St Andrews in 1755, from archdeacons transcripts, but the day and month is ??/?? However, several lines upwards, it says 25 Dec 1755. Not sure if that means all 11 burials, or just the Sarah Earl one.
Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 23 August 25 16:05 BST (UK) »
I did find a burial on FindMyPast for a John Harmer, surgeon in Norwich St Andrews in 1755, from archdeacons transcripts, but the day and month is ??/?? However, several lines upwards, it says 25 Dec 1755. Not sure if that means all 11 burials, or just the Sarah Earl one.

hiya  ;D,
Well a burial for an John Harmer, surgeon in Norwich St Andrews in 1755, dec 25th would fit very nicely indeed. He dies on Christmas eve and is buried on Christmas day.

I shall have to visit St Andrews, Norwich on my next trip over to England from here in Zwolle, the Netherlands. Possibly Harmer has a gravestone there  ::)
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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 23 August 25 18:01 BST (UK) »
A snippet from the page of St Andrew's Norwich burials showing John Harmer's burial.

Researching:

LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: Harmer Rogers c1753
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 23 August 25 18:34 BST (UK) »
Oh yes, definitely John Harmer, Surgeon buried 25th december 1755 at St. Andrews, Norwich.
Many thanks, yes of course these are the Bishops transcripts and copied from the original inscriptions of the Church records. Maybe somewhere along the line mistakes where made ?
The entry of the burial at St. Andrews, Norwich on Ancestry does seem to read 21-12-1755.
I'm sorry as much as I try I cannot add an image on Rootschatm !!!!  :P
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