Thomas Davies 1855

[Neale1961]

This is the relevant birth certificate. PLEASE POST IT BELOW.
This will tell you where & when he was born, his parents’ names and his father’s occupation.

DAVIES, THOMAS  JAMES                       Mother - ASHTON 
GRO Reference: 1888  S Quarter in HEREFORD  Volume 06A  Page 464


This is the relevant marriage certificate. PLEASE POST IT BELOW.
This will give you information about his father. Does it match his first marriage?

DAVIES   Thomas   WILDBORE   Celia   1885   Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended   Prescot   R/37/183
WILDBORE   Celia   DAVIES   Thomas   1885   Prescot Register Office or Registrar Attended   Prescot   R/37/183


 This is the 1st marriage posted below.

[NorthernGeezer]

Morning Neale1961

The GRO birth record for Thomas James Davies is correct, I have a copy of his birth certificate which lists his father Thomas's occupation as Cooper and Journeyman.

The attached marriage certificate to Sarah Tremble is also correct, although Sarah is not the mother of the above Thomas.

I believe the marriage details regarding Cecilia Wildbore/Ashton are also correct.

Apologies, I cited James Davies farmer at your reply #18, I meant Thomas Davies is listed as a farmer

I've asked the other person for proof of the Thomas Davies/ Matilida Mary Saunders marriage, not just the GRO record 6a/782.

[mckha489]

Images for parish register appear to be on FamilySearch, but only viewable at an affiliate library.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/catalog/79366

[Neale1961]

You are correct mckha489. Thanks.
Transcript of the marriage is available.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NK86-1DS?lang=en

I posted details in reply #13.

Unfortunately, I don’t think NorthernGeezer has followed up on any of it yet, or obtained the necessary documents to provide accurate information.
I don’t think there is much more I can do to help.

[NorthernGeezer]

I've emailed the lady in question, she's at work at the moment but will see what she has when she gets home, she seems pretty sure of her facts though and the Family Search record probably confirms it.

I have access to her family tree on Ancestry and its pretty conclusive, she's very thorough people wise but a little light on the details, Burghill Thomas is there, married to Mary and a shed load of kids too.

[NorthernGeezer]

Well well well, news about Matilda Mary Saunders................. my contact accepts she married A Thomas Davies, other than the evidence on Family Search and the GRO record, she cant confirm its THE Thomas Davies from her, and possibly my family.
She's going away to revisit her evidence, I've asked her to consider the Burghill/Holmer link, given the fact they are only a few miles apart.
That still leaves us with Grandad Thomas citing his fathers occupation as a farmer but if we disregard that, it hopefully leaves us with Thomas married to a Sarah Tremble and a Cecilia Wildbore/Ashton and his father being James Davies.

[Neale1961]

Again, I draw your attention to my reply #13.
There are 2 Thomas Davies born around the same time, and in the same Burghill - Holmer area. One is the son of James (a cooper), and the other is the son of Thomas (a labourer and thatcher).
They are not the same person!

I believe the marriage details regarding Cecilia Wildbore/Ashton are also correct.

If you do not have the actual document, you will not know what it says. It doesn’t matter what you “believe" it might say. The indexing of a document does not give you the detail that is on the document.

That still leaves us with Grandad Thomas citing his fathers occupation as a farmer ……

Again, I encourage you to look at and consider the evidence you have for the occupation of his father.
Birth certificates of children,
2 marriage certificates,
numerous census records,
perhaps even newspaper mentions.

[jonwarrn]

Thomas Davies living in Burghill, with father James, a cooper

1861
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M75H-3LS?lang=en

Birth registrations in Hereford RD for all the other children, mother's maiden name Trilloe.
Baptisms for them in Burghill.
But nothing at all for Thomas 

[jonwarrn]

1871
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V55V-WZ7?lang=en

And another free transcription on FreeCen
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5e610240f4040b121d20049c/

Place of birth for Thomas is Hereford St Peter(s)