Trouble With Frederick Watson b. 1867

[JackB015725]

Thank you, very much!

This has certainly proved to be something indeed. My grandfatherwho told me the story (along with many other family members) said that Frederick "did a runner", and emigrated to America, leaving Eleanor behind.

Although, I wonder as to how correct that story is--could it be a lie? Becuase, I think that this Frederick Watson could well be the man I have been lookng for. The information matches up and it seems a strong possibility.

[JackB015725]

Also, interesting that they are together in 1901 as well. Could this Frederick want to leave Eleanor immediately, or is he another man?

Thank you

[rosie99]

Do you think it is likely that he has been married to Eleanor for a couple of weeks and is showing in the same house as Mary Burns as well as Eleanor.  .  The 1901 census was taken on 31st March.

It looks as though the one with Mary Burns could be Frederick James Watson 

[JenB]

1921 census 41 Francis St, So Shields.

Fred J Watson 55 Years 7 Months Head. Boilermaker. Out of work.
Mary Burns   58 Years 8 Months   Servant.

It looks as though the one with Mary Burns could be Frederick James Watson 

The Frederick J Watson with Mary Burns was still at 41 Francis Street in 1939. His occupation retired boilermaker.
His date of birth 26th November 1866.

Which fits exactly with this baptism at St Hilda's, South Shields
19 Dec 1866 Frederick James Wallgrem Watson, of South Shields, born 26 Nov 1866, parents Charles (mariner) & Jane Watson

[mulberry-rose]

Looks like Frederick and Eleanor had a daughter together in 1902?? 

WATSON, ELEANOR       RODENBY 
GRO Reference: 1902  D Quarter in TYNEMOUTH  Volume 10B  Page 336


1891 Census at 20 Reed St Westoe South Shields has
Frederick Watson, 24, Riveter, b South Shields
Sarah Watson, wife, 20, b South Shields
Charles Watson, son, 2, b South Shields
William Watson, son, 1, b South Shields

1881 Census for Frederick the son of Charles & Jane at Eldin St, Westoe

Charles Watson, 46, fireman
Jane Watson, wife, 37, b South Shields
Charles J Watson, son, 16, b South Shields
Frederick Watson, son, 14, b South Shields
Alfred Watson, son, 11, b South Shields

[JenB]

Also, interesting that they are together in 1901 as well.

As Rosie has suggested, it's perhaps unlikely that, as a newly married man, he would have shown on the same census with two different women, one in Blyth Northumberland and the other in South Shields.

It seems that the South Shields chap was Frederick James Watson.

Also the birth place of Frederick in Blyth in 1901 was given as Burnside, County Durham (as Rosie has already pointed out). I'm not sure where that was but I don't think there was any part of Westoe/South Shields with that name.

I think we might have two different men here.

[JackB015725]

Hi JenB,

Those are my thoughts entirely. I think we can now, rule out Frederick James Watson, and conclude that he is not the man we are looking for.

[mulberry-rose]

1911 census states Eleanor Watson’s marriage length as 32 years so is it possible her marital status here was referring to her first marriage, not the one with Frederick?

John Blenkinsopp m. Eleanor in 1879 which adds up 32 years in 1911. Of course she’s a widow from him though.

[JackB015725]

Most likely, because she married John Blenkinsopp in 1879. However John Blenkinsopp was dead by 1898. So it seems strange that it doesn't record the marriage as 10 years to Frederick, and instead refers to her previous marriage to John Blenkinsopp. I wonder why that is?