Harry Victor Usher Parents

[AR.Usher]

He married 25 December 1924 (not 1926) St Peter's Battersea, he was 24 and Pastry Cook

Her father was Albert Town deceased, Lily was 22.

His father Joseph Thomas Usher was a Painter

I was told Lily and Harry first met as orphans in an orphanage (details were a little messy)so it seems Lily was the orphan. Her mother seems to be Selina, and both her parents die in 1911. I was also told Harry Victor was a baker.

Albert was a painters labourer from the 1911 census, so maybe painter was accidentally put in Joseph's occ.

Age is a bit out but

Shipping

Kingston Jamaica to Aviemouth, arrived 11 May 1924
H.V. Usher age 22 no occupation
Miss D. B Usher, 26 typist

Going to 32, Madeley Rd, Ealing.
Country of last permanent residence, British Honduras

I don't know who D. B. could be, or why they were there in the first place.

[mckha489]

In 1939 with the Ushers is

Charles   Minton   12 Dec 1910   Male   Automobile Electrical Engineer

There is a marriage in 1907
Elizabeth Usher to Joseph Thomas MINTON, a painter

But they seem to be together a lot before that.
In 1901 they are at 77 Chancellors road, same as the baptism, with a 5 month old Henry Minton

[AR.Usher]

In 1939 with the Ushers is

Charles   Minton   12 Dec 1910   Male   Automobile Electrical Engineer

There is a marriage in 1907
Elizabeth Usher to Joseph Thomas MINTON, a painter

But they seem to be together a lot before that.
In 1901 they are at 77 Chancellors road, same as the baptism, with a 5 month old Henry Minton

That other name seems familiar. I believe I saw a Henry or Joseph somewhere with the names Usher and Minton together, let me try to find it quickly.

[Neale1961]

In 1901 they are at 77 Chancellors road, same as the baptism, with a 5 month old Henry Minton

Good find, mckha489 !!
I have been looking for that address in 1901.

[Neale1961]

 1921 in 99 Grant Rd, Battersea
Joseph Thomas Minton – a decorator
Wife Elizabeth
son H V Minton age 21 and 1 month – recorded as away with army
3 other children in house

[AR.Usher]

Thank you to all of you!!

I did go look at more of Fulham's Ushers, and there are a few more without a mmn listed on the GRO index, which makes me believe they are Illegitimate + I couldn't find a census for them.

Edit: putting them here for now, i'll do more research on them soon.

   USHER, WILLIAM  JOSEPH     - 
GRO Reference: 1898  S Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 212

   USHER, IVY  ELIZABETH     - 
GRO Reference: 1902  J Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 217

   USHER, GERTRUDE  BESSIE DRAKE    - 
GRO Reference: 1904  S Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 210

   USHER, IVY       - 
GRO Reference: 1906  M Quarter in FULHAM  Volume 01A  Page 355
^ does seem to have an 1911 census, living with completely unrelated people.

[mckha489]

This record set
Wandsworth Intermediate School Swaffield Road: Admission and Discharge Register, 1909-1916

Has Joseph William, Henry & Edith  all as Minton or Usher

Henry’s dob on that is said to be 4th November 1900
Name of parent or guardian = Joseph Minton

[AR.Usher]

1911 Wandsworth London

Henry Minton 11
Ivy Minton 9
Edith Minton 7

theres also this
   USHER, EDITH       - 
GRO Reference: 1903  S Quarter in ST MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 530

Edit: 1901 has a son Joseph Thomas, which I'm assuming to be William Joseph, the census officer just got mixed up.

[Neale1961]

1901 census mentioned above

Entry is badly transcribed on Ancestry. It does say
Elizabeth F. Usher Minton, wife 31, born Pimlico London.


In 1891 census
Elizabeth F Usher is a servant for the Chapman family in St George Hanover Square.