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1703 French Muster Roll
« on: Friday 01 August 25 23:07 BST (UK) »
This is from MyHeritage, but I can't see any reference to where it might have come from.
https://en.geneanet.org/archival-registers/view/792407/17?individu_filter=38512923

The middle name of these three is Jean Reboutte.

It's not 'my' Jean Reboute/Rabate', but Fieulaine is a very tiny place, so I think there must be some connection.'My' Jean was also a soldier, so I'm wondering if there might be Muster Rolls available to view somewhere else.

Unfortunately, the Fieulaine registers don't start until 1669 - some 12 years after the said birth of this man.

I'm having some trouble deciphering it.

I can see his nom de plume was 'Grand St Jean', but what's the word after that and before 'age de 46'?

The transcribed information gives his place of birth as 'Fieulaine' - is that what the first word under 'Lieu de naissance' is?
And what are the rest of the words in that section?

The transcribed information also gives a place 'Ribemont' (which is a hop skip and jump from Fieulaine), which I think is the next column - perhpas it comes under the larger area of Fieulaine?

I'm presuming 'signalement' means description (Google translate tells me it means 'reporting' which is not very helpful!), as I think it's a physical description of him.
'Taille de cing pieds six pouce Cheveaux noir' - 5 foot six inches tall with black hair, - what's the last word after that?

Any help gratefully received  :)
Thank you





Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 August 25 08:37 BST (UK) »
A few answers :

1  "I can see his nom de plume was 'Grand St Jean', but what's the word after that and before 'age de 46'?"
His "nom de guerre" ( not nom de plume) was Grand St Jean + the word difficult to decipher ( Radeph?)

2 "The transcribed information gives his place of birth as 'Fieulaine' - is that what the first word under 'Lieu de naissance' is?
And what are the rest of the words in that section?"

de philin (Fieulaine) ADDED: old name for Fieulaine was Fullains ( sounds almost like Philin)
marsailly
la picardie


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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 August 25 08:44 BST (UK) »

"I'm presuming 'signalement' means description (Google translate tells me it means 'reporting' which is not very helpful!), as I think it's a physical description of him.
'Taille de cing pieds six pouce Cheveaux noir' - 5 foot six inches tall with black hair, - what's the last word after that?"

I can't tell what is this word ,but it is a more précise description of the hair (cheveux , not cheveaux) .
The other soldiers have wigs ( perruque), or fair hair (blonds),or brown (chatain), or long hair .

ADDED: could be "léger" ?

This soldier has black hair, not long.

5  Yes ,"signalement " means physical description.


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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 August 25 09:23 BST (UK) »
The muster roll comes from here
Document information
367 records - Indexation completed

[SHD/GR 3 Yc 177] - France - Military muster roll registers in Kingdom of France Ancien Régime (1682-1793) | 1705 - 1727

File number : SHD/GR 3 Yc 177

Cavalerie (Régiment de cavalerie de Mestre de camp général)
Document conservé au Service Historique de la Défense à Vincennes.

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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 03 August 25 06:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your help with this joger.

What sort of word do you think that word after his nom de guerre is - you say possibly 'Radeph' - is it another name do you think, or has some other meaning?
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 03 August 25 09:05 BST (UK) »
What sort of word do you think that word after his nom de guerre is - you say possibly 'Radeph' - is it another name do you think, or has some other meaning?

It looks like Redeph (or Radeph), but I'm not sure about the first letter. There is something odd about it. It has some extra strokes. It could be another letter, but I just can't figure it out.
So I can't help you with that.

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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #6 on: Monday 04 August 25 05:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks for having a look Zefiro.

Destined to remain a mystery!  :)

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #7 on: Monday 04 August 25 08:52 BST (UK) »
I misread the word after philin, it is macuilly ( nowadays Macquigny).

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Re: 1703 French Muster Roll
« Reply #8 on: Monday 04 August 25 08:59 BST (UK) »
I think that" Radeph", which means nothing is the begining of "? de philin " and should have been crossed out.