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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #27 on: Monday 04 August 25 10:46 BST (UK) »
FindMyPast has Southwark Vaccination Registers

Month - September; Sub District - Christchurch; Address - 46 Surrey Row; Name of Child - Arthur Edgar Jewson; Sex - B; Name of Parent - Alfred Edgar Jewson; Occupation - Printer; When Vac. given - 6 Sep 1895; To Whom Given - Mother; Date of Certificate of Successful Vaccination - 3 Jan 1896 

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #28 on: Monday 04 August 25 11:16 BST (UK) »
The Holborn Union had a workhouse at Mitcham, in Croydon RD.
So maybe a look at the London workhouse records on ancestry, see if there is anything for Alfred?

City Road workhouse
Admitted 2 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851. Says married.

Discharged, 5 February, as Edward Jewson, 65, to Mitcham

Mitcham workhouse
Admitted 5 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851.

Discharge, 9 June 1916
Alfred Jewson, 65, Dead

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #29 on: Monday 04 August 25 13:57 BST (UK) »
In response to Maddys52, if the marriage certificate between Alfred Edgar Jewson and Mary Hunter would give me an address for Alfred that may confirm it was my great grandfather I am not sure how that would help because there still seems to be two families:
Mary Anne Jewson and Alfred Edgar Jewson having 3 children, Arthur, Beatrice and Olive
Mary Elizabeth Jewson and Alfred Edgar Jewson having 3 children Arthur, Beatrice and Olive
All records for Alfred Edgar Jewson who died in the workhouse 9th June 1916; Arthur's Army records and the girls marriages etc link to Mary Elizabeth whereas Arthur and Olive's birth records have Hunter and Anger as mother's maiden name, so I am left with Mary Anne and Mary Elizabeth being the same person which would mean that my great grandfather was the Alfred Edgar Jewson who died in the workhouse 9th June 1916.
But how does Mary Anne become Mary Elizabeth? ???

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #30 on: Monday 04 August 25 14:24 BST (UK) »
The Holborn Union had a workhouse at Mitcham, in Croydon RD.
So maybe a look at the London workhouse records on ancestry, see if there is anything for Alfred?

City Road workhouse
Admitted 2 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851. Says married.

Discharged, 5 February, as Edward Jewson, 65, to Mitcham

Mitcham workhouse
Admitted 5 February 1916
Alfred Jewson, Printer, C of E, born 1851.

Discharge, 9 June 1916
Alfred Jewson, 65, Dead

Excellent jonwarrn - OP will be delighted.

All the best
Sandra
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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #31 on: Monday 04 August 25 14:42 BST (UK) »
jonwarrn, Sandra, thank you for the replies.

Trouble is that still does not prove that the Alfred Edgar Jewson who died in the workhouse was my great grandfather. His records link him to Mary Elizabeth Jewson not Mary Ann Jewson [Hunter] and sadly it still comes back to were Mary Elizabeth and Mary Anne the same person.

Meanwhile trawling through the burial registers for London and Middlesex I have seen my great grandmother Amelia Caroline Jewson's burial in 1890 and am continuing to search for any Alfred Edgar  Jewsons in the hope that AlanBoyd was right and he may have died before 1901 census  :)

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 05 August 25 13:22 BST (UK) »
Hi all
Just found out that it's not mandatory to record bride or groom's father as deceased, so dates he appears on children's marriage certificate not going to be much help in tying down a death date.

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #33 on: Thursday 07 August 25 06:46 BST (UK) »
I think that Mary Anne and Mary Elizabeth are the same person - both born Watchfield, Berks c1861 (Mary A in 1891, and Mary E in 1921). I have no idea why the change in middle name.

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 07 August 25 07:23 BST (UK) »
Watchfield PRs
1861 Dec 25, ANGER Mary Anne, d/o Arthur and Mary, lab.

1860 Aug 25
ANGER Arthur, 22, b, lab, s/o Thomas, farmer
BAXTER Mary, 19, sp, d/o John, lab
Both made their mark
Wits: Thomas ANGER, Jane ANGER

Mary Anne ANGER married Henry Alexander HUNTER first in 1883 and he died in Jun qtr 1894. She then married Alfred in Dec qtr 1894 as Mary HUNTER, hence the Hunter step-children with them in 1901.

Mary and Alfred's marriage is not showing up in the online PRs, so may have been a Registry Office one, so you would have to get it from the GRO.

The 1894 London electoral roll has an Alfred Edgar JEWSON is at 15 Thurlow Street in Southwark. This was his address in 1891, and could be the address on the marriage, or even Arthur's birth registration.

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Re: Unable to find death record for Alfred Edgar JEWSON
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 07 August 25 10:45 BST (UK) »
All can be discounted as your Alfred Edgar Jewson.............

Blackheath Gazette
London, Greater London.
Fri, 7 Jul 1893
Page 5

https://www.newspapers.com/article/blackheath-gazette/178352371/

Deaths Sep 1893   
Jewson    Alfred    40    Greenwich    1d   661


Lloyd's Weekly Newspaper
London, Greater London
Sun, 17 Feb 1895
Page 20

https://www.newspapers.com/article/lloyds-weekly-newspaper/178352399/

Deaths Mar 1895   
Jewson    Alfred    36    Poplar    1c   471

The Standard
London, Greater London.
Thu, 5 Sept 1895
Page 1

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-standard/178352428/

Deaths Sep 1895 
Jewson    Alfred    47    Camberwell    1d   557   

Discounted - this last entry is an infant.
 
Deaths Mar 1899 
Jewson    Alfred Charles    0    Holborn    1b   484
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