Plea for help - Bairds of Kilkenny

[Sam Baird]

Hello Roots,

I am very new to Roots and family tree searching, I'm hoping for some help please.

I'm looking at my husband's side of the family, his grandad Edward Baird born 2.11.1903 Kilkenny to Thomas and Mary Baird Nee Phelan. I'm stuck at Thomas Baird. I don't know how to find his birth or marriage, or death even. All records have different ages.
Ancestry keeps sending my hints for Thomas Baird married to Sophia Smith, how do i know if he was married before?

Any help is very much appreciated
Kind regards
Sam Martin-Baird 

[jorose]

Hi there and welcome to Rootschat!


The first thing we want to do is confirm the circumstance's of Edward's birth including if he had any siblings. All details from the birth are important.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ shows me his birth but it is indexed under BEIRD and his mother's name is indexed as WHELAN.   Also the birthdate is a year off - 2nd November 1902.

I think this is your man. He was born Kilkenny, his father was a tailor, and a Catherine Beird (grandmother?) registered the birth.
This would appear to be them in 1911. Thomas was much older than Mary.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Kilkenny_No__2_Urban/Irishtown__East_Side_/525680/

Other records use Baird or Beird, and mother sometimes indexed as Whelan or Phelan.
Catherine, 1905
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1905/01783/1700456.pdf
Margaret, 1907 https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1907/01675/1666728.pdf
Elizabeth, 1909
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1909/01591/1639905.pdf

1901 census showing Thomas and Mary with some family:
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Kilkenny_Urban/Lees_Lane/1451247/

Marriage of Thomas & Mary 1900
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1900/10337/5763492.pdf

According to the marriage, Thomas was a bachelor.

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Here's his death 11.4.1918
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/view/?record_id=0c9e5f72a2-2348925
age really out though.

Look away now if you want to the rest yourself..

It looks like Thomas bapt 31.3.1861 St Canice Kilkenny s of William Baird and Catherine Cullen
Siblings Elizabeth 26.1.1857 ,Patrick 17.5.1865 ,James 18.2.1868 and William 4.12.1870.

Parents married 18.4.1856.
Son James married Margaret Meagher at Thurles 9.8.1887  by which time William was dead.
1901 census  10 Galesquarter Cullahill
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Queen_s_Co_/Cullahill/Galesquarter/1642994/
James is a publican and farmer.
1911 Catherine seems to have moves back to Kilkenny.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Kilkenny_No__1_Urban/Thomas_Street/527258/

Sister Lizzie Beard married at Kilkenny27.12.1884 to Richard Power and William also noted as dead then.
Just for completeness William junior married Ellen Morris 9.1.1894.
Jorose has done a brilliant job but in case you were struggling with the earlier stuff ,it can be good to cheat a bit.

Ciderdrinker

[Sam Baird]

@jorose and @ciderdrinker

WOW!!

How??? Fantastic! I'm so over joyed at this information. I'm giddy with excitement.
I am Very grateful.

This is amazing, thank you very much, this is so kind of you both to take the time to help a stranger.
I've have been really struggling and you helped me move along massively.
Thanks Again
Sam 

[Wexflyer]

Previous thread by OP
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=892929.0

Why OP didn't just extend that thread or reference it is unclear to me.