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Owens and Steads/Steeds of Bogside, Crosshouse
« on: Thursday 31 July 25 03:59 BST (UK) »
My 4th great-grandfather William Owens (1841-1918) lived in Bogside Row (which is possibly on a 'Montgomerie Estate'?) from around 1885 until his death. My understanding is from looking at valuation rolls is that he owned some land (being listed as a proprietor) and there were a few folk living also on the row, with him as landlord. I should mention that as per these valuation rolls, William is an engine driver and as per his death certificate he is a 'colliery engine keeper'.

In 1895 there seems to be six houses there and two attics (I assume it means the same as attic does today) of which he owns both the attics and two houses. In 1905 it looks to be seven houses but it doesn't state if any of them are attics. William owns four.

By 1905 my 3rd great-grandparents James and Elizabeth Stead (née Owens) lived on William's land and as did an uncle of James and his family. My 2nd great-grandmother Catherine Kerr Stead was born in Bogside Cottage in 1901.

It seems as though once William died the land stayed in the family and went to his son in law James Stead who appears to own the four cottages in Bogside in 1920 and 1925. The other cottages owned by someone else seem to no longer exist at this point. It might be worth mentioning that in 1925 James also owned two houses in Gatehead where his son-in-law, William Samson (married to the aforementioned Catherine) lived. My great-grandmother was born here in 1925. The other house was occupied by a John Stead, which I think was probably James's brother.

In the 1930s, things get a bit confusing. James and Elizabeth moved out of the area to Crosshands (about two miles north of Mauchline), but in 1930 and 1935 Elizabeth, rather than James, was the proprieter of the four cottages and one of her tenants was the widow of James's aforementioned uncle. James still owns the two houses in Gatehead, one of which is condemned. In 1935 James now only owns one house in Gatehead which is empty. Elizabeth still owns the four houses in Bogside. Elizabeth dies in 1936, followed by James in 1937. I am not sure what happened with the Bogside houses after this but the house in Gatehead I think must've been knocked down as in 1940 it's in the ownership of William Samson but it listed as a "site for house".

William and Catherine's youngest son, my great-uncle, is still alive and mentioned a while ago having title deeds to a small piece of land which we thought might be related to Bogside or Gatehead, but if it is then I'm not sure why it would go to him, being the youngest child. I will have to speak to him.

My first question is about Bogside itself - I've had a look online and what I can find is very lacking. It seems like some sort of very small settlement that no longer exists. From the 1895 valuation roll it's mentioned that it is on the road from Crosshouse to Gatehead (presumably the B751, visible on google maps).

I suppose my second question, perhaps a bit more difficult to answer, but by what means would an assumedly working class Scot be able to obtain land? I am not sure how a lot of this stuff works so any help would be appreciated!

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Re: Owens and Steads/Steeds of Bogside, Crosshouse
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 31 July 25 05:38 BST (UK) »
I presume you have this 1857 map but just in case you don't https://maps.nls.uk/view/74930509#zoom=5.3&lat=4585&lon=8092&layers=BT

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Re: Owens and Steads/Steeds of Bogside, Crosshouse
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 July 25 08:45 BST (UK) »
What you need is a look at the Registers of Sasines.

See https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=26232.0

Unfortunately these are not available online. You need to go to the Historical Search Room in General Register House in Edinburgh, or one of a handful of local archives which have a link to the National Records of Scotland.

If you don't live in Scotland and you can't contemplate coming here you could consider getting someone to transcribe the relevant documents for you.

See https://asgra.co.uk/
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Owens and Steads/Steeds of Bogside, Crosshouse
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 July 25 08:53 BST (UK) »
More maps

Six-inch map from 1856 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.0&lat=55.60875&lon=-4.54968&layers=257&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

Six-inch map surveyed in 1895 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16.0&lat=55.60758&lon=-4.54637&layers=6&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

25-inch map surveyed in 1895 https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=14.6&lat=55.60611&lon=-4.54815&layers=168&b=ESRIWorld&o=100

You may need to zoom in or out to see Bogside.

Gatehead is further south than Bogside, nearer the River Irvine. You can find it by dragging the maps up.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: Owens and Steads/Steeds of Bogside, Crosshouse
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 July 25 23:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you both for these maps - this is really helpful. That's one of my questions answered!

I have sent an email to the NRS at Edinburgh regarding the Register of Sasines and how to go about them - thanks Forfarian.