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Re: Odd Marriage Certificate
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 30 July 25 16:01 BST (UK) »
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I can't locate her BC

What was her surname and where was she born?

Lily Elizabeth Thorne. 1884. Sturminster Newton, Dorset.  I found an Elizabeth Thorne born same year, same place but its not her.  Being called Lily Elizabeth seems somewhat strange too, like being called Dave David!! But that is what is used on almost every document she is listed on.  She died as a Thorne and didnt appear to get married

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Re: Odd Marriage Certificate
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 30 July 25 16:02 BST (UK) »
Was her mother called Lily or Elizabeth or her grandmother.

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Re: Odd Marriage Certificate
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 30 July 25 16:11 BST (UK) »

I believe Lily's mother was Caroline Thorne and her maternal grandparents William Thorne and Charlotte Newman. The "e" in Thorn(e) seems entirely random!!

Id never heard of the place until all this and I know Dorset reasonably well!!

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Re: Odd Marriage Certificate
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 30 July 25 16:19 BST (UK) »
Caroline was 16 on the 1881 census and born 1866 so should be older than 16 in 1884 - does the baptism record give her age?  I can't see a birth registration either unfortunately. 

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Re: Odd Marriage Certificate
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 July 25 16:20 BST (UK) »
You can never rely on information on certificates to be completely true, there is always a chance  of being led up blind alley.

A lot of people never had their full birth certificate, there was not the call to produce it as there is today. For example, my father only had a shortened version which simply gave name, date and place of birth.  A full certificate was an unnecessary expense for many people. My father travelled to Canada  and back in 1910 without the need for a passport.

Even my late mother in law who born illegitimately in 1920 only had a shortened version of her birth certificate, that was all she needed to obtain a passport to visit us in Malta in 1963.  I once asked her what her mother's name was, she said she had no idea as she had never seen her full certificate , it was only about 30 years ago when I obtained her full certificate that she learned who her birth mother was.

On her marriage certificate to my husband's father the space for her Father's information is blank. When she married her second husband she gave her foster Father's name rather than admit she was illegitimate. So anyone researching her would find it impossible to find a birth in that name.

No one would have imagined that well over a hundred years later family historians would be unearthing family scandals.

CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.

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Re: Odd Marriage Certificate
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 July 25 16:33 BST (UK) »
Caroline was 16 on the 1881 census and born 1866 so should be older than 16 in 1884 - does the baptism record give her age?  I can't see a birth registration either unfortunately. 

There you go, you can pay a visit now!  There is a water mill you can look round, very peaceful setting

Unfortunately, no age given on baptism record!!

Not many places in Dorset not called Bournemouth that arent peaceful.