Impossible birth certificate

[lmgnz]

I am being warned there are more replies pending but anyway I have seen two probably siblings of Elizabeth on the PRONI indexes. First is Edward born 1921 and second is Mary born 25 Sep 1923. Due to spelling variants I used begins with "Mag" for mothers maiden name. Mary's birth is under magennes.

[Kiltaglassan]

I am being warned there are more replies pending but anyway I have seen two probably siblings of Elizabeth on the PRONI indexes. First is Edward born 1921 and second is Mary born 25 Sep 1923. Due to spelling variants I used begins with "Mag" for mothers maiden name. Mary's birth is under magennes.

For Edward, see replies #24 & #25

[softly softly]

If the 1911 census is correct then these are the births of Annie(Ann) & her brother Henry, both of same address.


https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1899/02044/1782928.pdf

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1897/02143/1813740.pdf

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1901 census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Armagh/Lurgan_Urban/Thomas_Street/1026363/

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[Jon_ni]

I can now say thanks to Softly Softly, I’ve finally got the correct person. The birthdate on the death certificate was indeed wrong,and should have been 21st June 1919.
So Elizabeth’s mother was Annie Maginnis, and her father Patrick McKeown.

Marie, so do you have the 1941 GRO mariage certificate of Elizabeth McKeown to Clifford Samuel Cook? Does it say Elizabeth's father was Patrick and was that marriage R.C.or perhaps Registrar Office?
https://ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8753/records/46465149

I ask as Patrick McKeown married Annie Magennis 19 Aug 1918 in St Peter's Roman Catholic Church, Lurgan but Clifford Samuel was Anglican.
https://irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09718/5525930.pdf
You have gone from a Church of Ireland father of James to a R.C one of Patrick.

Elizabeth's birth you now prefer https://irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1919/01243/1516732.pdf
Before you order any paper birth certificate for Elizabeth you need to get the marriage cert if you do not have an original or recently purchased copy of it.

As an aside Clifford Samuel Cook born Pontypridd is with his 'step-father' William Gwilliam & mother on the 1939 register https://ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61596/records/1383428
His father James Cook (died WW1) married Phyllis Margaret Hobbins in Ystradyfodwg Anglican Church, Glamorganshire, Wales 1905. Phyllis is listed as mistress on the 1921 scored out and changed to wife but seems to be no re-marriage.
https://ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62105/records/1304478

[softly softly]

Birth of older brother Patrick, address as per Annie & Henry.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1884/02673/1984978.pdf

Marriage of John & Elizabeth

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10939/5997967.pdf

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[Marie Baker]

Jon ni
Yes I have the marriage certificate, January 1st 1941, St Mary’s parish church Farnham Royal, Buckinghamshire. Father Patrick McKeown soldier. C of E, marriage.