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Impossible birth certificate
« on: Monday 28 July 25 16:37 BST (UK) »
I’m really hoping someone here can give me some advice,before I start talking to myself with frustration.
I need to get the birth certificate for an Elizabeth McKeown,born 19 th June 1919 in Ballymoney, Antrim. I have found the certificate on Ireland GRO so know the necessary numbers , but because I don’t know her mothers Surname,given names,or place of residence at the time of birth, I am unable to acquire the certificate. What can I do please?

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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 July 25 16:48 BST (UK) »
The only Ballymoney registered Elizabeth McKeown birth in 1919 I can see is this one:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1919/01250/1519365.pdf
 

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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:43 BST (UK) »
...and of the other 3 Elizabeth McKeown births in GRONI index for 1919, none of those had a 19th June 1919 birthdate either (and places of birth were Lurgan and Newry).

@Marie Baker, have you possibly mixed up some of the info you have provided in your opening post? Can you double check and post again with any corrections?
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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 July 25 20:23 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on the "Ancestry" website showing Elizabeth McKeown born on 19 Jun 1919, but unfortunately the cited origin of that date of birth is the England & Wales death index, meaning that the date in question is only as accurate as the person who registered her death (under her married name of Cooper) many years later in 1991. In other words, the date may be wrong.

Can the OP provide any other information about Elizabeth that is reliable?

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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 July 25 20:46 BST (UK) »
Quote from: gaffy on Monday 28 July 25 20:23 BST (UK)
There is a tree on the "Ancestry" website showing Elizabeth McKeown born on 19 Jun 1919, but unfortunately the cited origin of that date of birth is the England & Wales death index, meaning that the date in question is only as accurate as the person who registered her death (under her married name of Cooper) many years later in 1991. In other words, the date may be wrong.

Can the OP provide any other information about Elizabeth that is reliable?

Believe her surname at death was COOK

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 July 25 20:51 BST (UK) »
Correct, my mistake.

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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 July 25 21:00 BST (UK) »
Info only, month date correct, year correct, month May not june.

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https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1919/01247/1517974.pdf

added, there is also this birth 21st June 1919, mothers christian name Annie, wonder if the 2nd Cook/McKeown child born 1945 was named after her.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1919/01243/1516732.pdf

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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 July 25 21:23 BST (UK) »
I noticed births like these when I checked... but they are nowhere near Ballymoney in Co. Antrim.

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Re: Impossible birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 July 25 21:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your replies.we have Elizabeth’s death certificate which gives her date of birth as 19/06/1919. We connected that date with the birth in Ballymoney.
Her surname at death was Cook. She was married in England in 1941.
I have attached the birth record I found, but without the mother’s details I can’t get the certificate from GRONI. We need Elizabeth’s and her mother’s certs. As my granddaughter is having genetic testing for a breast cancer gene.
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