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Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« on: Monday 28 July 25 14:04 BST (UK) »
Looking for help in locating any records of Susan Martin born c.1826 in Bridport.

In 1841 she appears, aged 15, to be working as a female servant in Church Street, Hackney.
[Class: HO107; Piece: 698; Book: 6; Civil Parish: St John Hackney; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 6; Page: 4; Line: 23; GSU roll: 438812].

Then on 28th May 1849 she marries Henry Temple at All Saints Poplar giving her father's name as "John Martin, gent". She is 23 years old.

So I have nothing before 1841. She remained  in the Poplar/Tower Hamlets area of London. She was widowed in 1860 and working as a charwoman in 1861. I haven't yet found out if she re-married [she was only 34 when she was widowed] or when she died.

Thanks  :)

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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 July 25 15:44 BST (UK) »
In the absence if any other info a possibility to consider is that she was illegitimate & her mother married Mr Martin & she took his surname
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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 July 25 16:21 BST (UK) »
Can you rule out the Susan Martin who died 1913 Willesden Middlesex born 1827 in case she reverted to Martin for some reason.

Is 1861 the last sighting of her?
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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:23 BST (UK) »
In the absence if any other info a possibility to consider is that she was illegitimate & her mother married Mr Martin & she took his surname

I was thinking along those lines but differently. That she was illegitimate and Martin was her mother's maiden name. Then at her marriage in 1849, John Martin, gent was invented.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire


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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:34 BST (UK) »
Can you rule out the Susan Martin who died 1913 Willesden Middlesex born 1827 in case she reverted to Martin for some reason.

Is 1861 the last sighting of her?

Yes. I can't find her in 1871. I have searched for the youngest child, Sarah Caroline born 1859 but she died in 1862. The next youngest was Emily but I can't find her at all. And then Alfred Noah born 1855. I have found him in 1871 in Ramsgate, Kent as an apprentice baker. He had a few months in Poplar Workhouse in 1868.

The census references for Susan Temple [Martin] in 1851 and 1861 are:-

Class: HO107; Piece: 1554; Folio: 483; Page: 42; GSU roll: 174786
Class: Rg 9; Piece: 307; Folio: 95; Page: 56; GSU roll: 542611

I hadn't thought that she might have reverted to her maiden name.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:38 BST (UK) »

 She was widowed in 1860 and working as a charwoman in 1861. I haven't yet found out if she re-married [she was only 34 when she was widowed] or when she died.


Is this the 1861 census you have? surname transcribed as JEMPLE on Anc*y

1861 Piece 307
Folio   95
Page number   56

Susan 39 Head
John 11 Son
Susan 9 Daughter
William 7 Son
Alfred  6 Son
Emily 4 Daughter
Sarah  2 Daughter
All dittoed as born Poplar

Have you found any of the above children on 1871 census?

TEMPLE, SARAH  CAROLINE     MARTIN 
GRO Reference: 1859  J Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 01C  Page 491

I’m assuming this is the death of her daughter Sarah aged 2

TEMPLE, SARAH  CAROLINE   2
GRO Reference: 1862  M Quarter in POPLAR UNION  Volume 01C  Page 461   

Do you have the d/c?
An instant digital image available from GRO indexes cost £3
If so, who was the informant and is the address the same as the 1861 census?

Posting whilst red writing  :)



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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:48 BST (UK) »
Susan Mary Temple
Baptism    2 Jun 1850 Saint Anne, Limehouse: Commercial Road, Tower Hamlets, Tower Hamlets, England
Father   Henry John Temple Mother    Susan

Daughter Susan has middle name Mary there is this 1824 baptism on family search for a Susan Martin but it's in Somerset and father's occupation Labourer  ???

Residence Place   South Petherton Religion Anglican
Susan Martin Father John Martin  Occupation   Labourer Mother Mary
25 Jan 1824 South Petherton, Somerset
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6D96-D3NV?lang=en
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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #7 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:48 BST (UK) »
I have searched for the youngest child, Sarah Caroline born 1859 but she died in 1862. The next youngest was Emily but I can't find her at all. And then Alfred Noah born 1855. I have found him in 1871 in Ramsgate, Kent as an apprentice baker. He had a few months in Poplar Workhouse in 1868.

The census references for Susan Temple [Martin] in 1851 and 1861 are:-

HO107/1554/483 p42
RG 9/307/95 p56

So a GRO digital image of the youngest child's death would be the way forward. I will order tomorrow.

Do you think "Poplar Union" would point to the workhouse?

I have ruled out the Susanna Temple/Frederick Francis marriage on 17th Oct 1869 in Limehouse. She was a spinster with her father's name William Temple.
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Armitage, Slaithwaite; Buck, Staffs & Hampshire; Buckley, Bolton & Manchester; Temple, London & Hampshire; Crummett, Norfolk & Burnley; Osborne, Cornwall & Burnley; Haigh, Manchester & Todmorden; Gralton/Grant, Manchester & Ireland; France, Manchester & Slaithwaite; Shackleton, Burnley & Yorkshire; Dicks, Nottingham & Wiltshire; Sowter, Derbyshire

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Re: Susan Martin - Bridport, Dorset
« Reply #8 on: Monday 28 July 25 17:53 BST (UK) »
There's also baptisms (parents John & Mary)

Noah 1826
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6D9X-5349?lang=en

Elizabeth 1828
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6D96-8MGZ?lang=en

Mary 1822
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6D96-H1XN?lang=en

Edit to add images can be viewed on Anc*y
Somerset, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1914
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