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Wilson-Sloan
« on: Sunday 27 July 25 18:32 BST (UK) »
I believe my great grandfather Thomas Wilson was born in County Down, 1868/1869. His parents were a Joseph Wilson and Mary Sloan. I cant find a marriage for them anywhere even in Emerald Ancestors etc. As for Thomas the only birth I can find around he right time with the right parents is Hans Wilson born 3rd October 1868. I know folk can grow up being called something different. My  fathers siblings 4 of them are called something different from their birth certificate, For  Instance my Uncle Enda, only found out when he died his real name was Lorenzo Kevin so what chance do we have . lol

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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 July 25 18:49 BST (UK) »
i have shinn, Newry came up and i see Joseph Wilson there in the Griffiths Valuation

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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 July 25 19:27 BST (UK) »
Here is the birth of Hans Wilson- for information.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1868/03423/2256049.pdf
The residence is Shinn.
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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 July 25 19:29 BST (UK) »
I believe my great grandfather Thomas Wilson was born in County Down, 1868/1869. His parents were a Joseph Wilson and Mary Sloan.
Where does this information come from? Ages can vary from record to record.
What religion were the family? Did The family stay in Ireland?

As for Thomas the only birth I can find around he right time with the right parents is Hans Wilson born 3rd October 1868.
Here's the birth you found- Shinn townland (Newry is the registration district, Donaghmore the sub-district)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1868/03423/2256049.pdf

https://www.townlands.ie/down/lordship-of-newry/newry-down-portion/ouley/shinn/
Note that the current Finnard road goes through the lower end of Shinn.

Which brings me to a submitted tree on Family Search which shows another son Thomas born 1869 Finnard-
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L1XV-9WX
I haven't yet found Thomas' birth registration.
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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 July 25 19:37 BST (UK) »
The Valuation Revision books show Joseph Wilson as tenant living in a house in Shinn townland (from the first book in 1866 until crossed out in 1880).
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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 July 25 20:08 BST (UK) »
The Wilsons were protestant , On scottish records and census thats where this Shinn comes from. I beleive you are right with the 1869 and Hans was a brother, Also he seems to have had another brother Samuel who lived in the same row of houses in Netherton New Kilpatrick doing the same job so maybe Samuel got Thomas the job at his brickworks, Thomas was a lodger with my gt,gt,gt grandmother and my great grandmother lived with her. Thomas got her pregnant and the rest is history. he beat her every time he was drunk which was often.

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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 July 25 20:14 BST (UK) »
I should say that Thomas and Samuel both married and died in Glasgow, Scotland. Don't know what happened to the parents Joseph and Mary after they left Shinn in 1880

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Re: Wilson-Sloan
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 July 25 20:34 BST (UK) »
I can't see a marriage in Ireland and also checked Scotland in case the parents married there but nothing showing up in either place.
It's possible that Thomas Wilson was actually born before the start of civil registration in Ireland (1864).
Have you checked Scottish census records to see if you can spot parents also in Scotland after 1880?
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