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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:01 BST (UK) »
Definitely the Hannah Soffe I found.

One of the other occupants in the 1891 Census was a Miss Rye. Just found a newspaper item dated 2 June 1894 recording the minutes of the weekly meeting of the Board of Guardians for Minster in Thanet, Kent. It says that "Miss M S Rye wrote saying that the four girls from the workhouse would sail for Canada in the ship Mongolian, on June 14th. They must meet her at Euston Station, London, on June 13th at 11 am. A doctor's certificate that each child is in good health would be required on June 7th, together with a cheque for £36 for the emigration expenses."

So, Miss Rye seems to have been in the business in accepting waifs and strays from England and arranging for their emigration to Canada. But who was she working for? Revd Father Ledoon? And where was this children's home in Niagara?
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:09 BST (UK) »
from Google

In the 19th century, Niagara was home to "Our Western Home," a reception center for British Home Children, a program that sent orphaned and impoverished children from the UK to Canada for foster care and work. Specifically, the former Niagara Courthouse and Gaol were converted into this home by Maria Rye in 1868. These children, often referred to as "Rye Girls," were typically between 5 and 12 years old and were trained in domestic tasks before being placed with families.
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:14 BST (UK) »
Miss Rye's Emigration Home for Destitute Little Girls, Peckham, London

https://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/PeckhamMissRye/

Added: Maria Susan Rye (1829-1903)
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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:22 BST (UK) »
Marie Rye Homes child database.

https://www.britishhomechildren.com/mrhcdatabase

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you, Dave.  I didn't see those details, either I missed them or the version I saw was a rough list.  But that's really useful, gives me more to work with.  Thank you.

And thank you, Sandra and Alanboyd.  More interesting info... it's all very sad.  Wonder what happened to Dorothy?  I know one brother spent time in Canada but then headed for New Zealand, and a younger half brother followed her to Canada but under his own steam.  I'd like to think the pair met up...
Davison - London
South - London, Hampshire
Sharp(e) - Hertfordshire, Suffolk
Lee - Ireland, London
Edwards - Wiltshire, London
Bickers - London, Norfolk, Suffolk
Murray - London

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:40 BST (UK) »
1891 census East Grinstead, East Grinstead, Sussex,

Margaret Keating born Canterbury Kent 1884.
Age   7 - Relationship   Orphan
Civil parish   East Grinstead
Residence Place   East Grinstead, East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Registration District   East Grinstead
Sub registration district   East Grinstead.

loads of children listed as orphans on this entry.

St Margaret's  Home for sisterhood orphanage and school.  East Grinstead.

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St Margaret's orphanage for girls, East Grinstead. Sussex.

https://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/EastGrinsteadStMargaret/
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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 26 July 25 19:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you.  But I still don't understand why one daughter is in an orphanage in Kent when the rest of the family is in Islington?  All very odd!
Davison - London
South - London, Hampshire
Sharp(e) - Hertfordshire, Suffolk
Lee - Ireland, London
Edwards - Wiltshire, London
Bickers - London, Norfolk, Suffolk
Murray - London

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 26 July 25 20:27 BST (UK) »

Charles Edward Keating 1883 Kent England  aged 44 years, crossed the border USA to  Cobourg, Ontario, Canada, arriving 13 March 1927. Going to sister Mrs Lingard, Barratt Street, Port Hope, Ontario.
Had a brother Richard Keating, Hartlepool, Durham.

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 26 July 25 20:42 BST (UK) »
So, Miss Rye seems to have been in the business in accepting waifs and strays from England and arranging for their emigration to Canada. But who was she working for? Revd Father Ledoon? And where was this children's home in Niagara?

There are newspaper snippets which refer to Father Thomas Seddon/FatherSeddons of the Westminster diocese and children to Canada.

1891 101/75
Thomas Seddon, 54 yrs is a priest in Marylebone.

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01tw2/

There are other articles online which mention his work.
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