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Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« on: Saturday 26 July 25 14:53 BST (UK) »


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Dorothy Keating, born 1888 in Persia (father in army) but back in Islington, Middlesex in 1891 census  In 1894 she is sent from Liverpool to Quebec, Canada on the Mongolian, I have no idea of the circumstances or who sent her - the passenger list showed her among a number of other unrelated  young children with no obvious relative or adult escort so it's likely she was being sent as a Home Child.  So, can anyone tell me how I can discover the facts please?  All pointers would be very welcome.  Thank you.
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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 July 25 17:40 BST (UK) »
Did she have a sister Margaret who was sent to Canada as a home child -  ??

Canada Passenger List shows a Margaret Keating, aged 9 years. Landed Halifax Nova Scotia.
19 March 1893 on the Sardinian.

1901 census Durham Ontario

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KH2J-F2G?lang=en

In 1908 a marriage of Margaret Keating to William Thomas Lingard. Parents listed as John Keating and  Mary Mathison ??  Ancestry tree gives her name as Margaret Clitton Keating. Father Richard John Keating and mother Mary Mathieson Flannery.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZJ-GW6?lang=en

1911 census - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9T-MG6M?lang=en



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Margaret passed in 1936 - burial Port Hope Union Cemetery
Port Hope, Northumberland County, Ontario, Canada
Plot 16, Section SR

Added Death Certificate - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKNJ-4T7?lang=en

husband William Thomas Lingard - 1889 -1967

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199462538/william_thomas-lingard

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/199462538/william_thomas-lingard#view-photo=186402396

Seems to be a brother who married in Canada 1927 -  Charles Edward Keating.

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 July 25 17:47 BST (UK) »
Hello and thank you.

Dorothy's father was Richard Bernard Keating and mum, Mary Flannery, I don't know about the other names, and there was a brother Charles but a Margaret wasn't mentioned on the 1891 census.  But thank you - I'll store that away!  Any ideas about the circumstances Margaret went to Canada?
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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 26 July 25 17:54 BST (UK) »
Richard B Keating - Spouse    Mary Flannery
Child    Charles Edward Keating- marriage to Dorothy Hill - 1927

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKMR-JTDC?lang=en

A death of Charles Edward Keating in New Zealand  -  1971

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKDL-Q594?lang=en

Death Certificate of Margaret Keating/Lingard have added above as well

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKNJ-4T7?lang=en

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 July 25 18:16 BST (UK) »


Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:

KEATING, MARGARET       FLANNERY 
GRO Reference: 1883  S Quarter in CANTERBURY  Volume 02A  Page 793

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 July 25 18:21 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, I wonder where she was in 1891?  But why did the girls go to Canada?  The boys went into the army and navy and travelled I think.  Mum died in 1902. 
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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 July 25 18:30 BST (UK) »
1891 census East Grinstead, East Grinstead, Sussex,

Margaret Keating born Canterbury Kent 1884.
Age   7 - Relationship   Orphan
Civil parish   East Grinstead
Residence Place   East Grinstead, East Grinstead, Sussex, England
Registration District   East Grinstead
Sub registration district   East Grinstead.

loads of children listed as orphans on this entry.

St Margaret's  Home for sisterhood orphanage and school.  East Grinstead.

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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 26 July 25 18:35 BST (UK) »
Well that's confusing. Her parents were alive! A puzzle  ???
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Re: Dorothy Keating sent to Canada 1894 aged 6
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 July 25 18:49 BST (UK) »


Hello

Dorothy Keating, born 1888 in Persia (father in army) but back in Islington, Middlesex in 1891 census  In 1894 she is sent from Liverpool to Quebec, Canada on the Mongolian, I have no idea of the circumstances or who sent her - the passenger list showed her among a number of other unrelated  young children with no obvious relative or adult escort so it's likely she was being sent as a Home Child.  So, can anyone tell me how I can discover the facts please?  All pointers would be very welcome.  Thank you.

Going back to the original question, I've located the image of the outgoing record for the Mongolian and I've taken a look the image of the record that you found.

The Mongolian set sail from Liverpool on 14 June 1894 bound for Quebec and Montreal.

As you say, there were many children on board including Dorothy. Some of the children were listed (bracketed together) as being "from the workhouse"). Dorothy was among a group marked as "not from the workhouse".

There is a note on the record that says all of the children were "Revd Father Ledoon's Party". At least, that's what I think it says.

There is also a note saying "for Montreal" so I assume that was were Dorothy and the other children were headed, not Quebec.

The children were in fact accompanied by an adult, namely a 55 matron called "Mrs Soffe".

1891 Census of Nigara, Ontario in Canada records that Hannah Soffe (matron age 50, born England) was living with a very large number of children all of whom had been born in England. I have not yet identified the property in question, but it was probably a children's home.
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