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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #45 on: Monday 04 August 25 01:18 BST (UK) »
A possible for Eliza:

25 Mar 1876 at St Marylebone Parish Church
Henry Coles f/a Bachelor, Engineer of St Thomas, Portman Square. Father: Thomas Coles, Engineer
Eliza Harris f/a Spinster of St Marylebone. Father: James Harris, Private Attendant
Both signed
Witnesses: J Baldwin, C? Drabble

1881 at 21 Blandford Street, Marylebone - RG11/143/20/32
Henry Coles 35 Engine Fitter b Sidmouth, Devon
Eliza 31 wife b Southall, Middlesex
Fredk 2 son b Marylebone

COLES, FREDERICK mmn HARRIS 
GRO Reference: 1878  S Quarter in MARYLEBONE  Volume 01A  Page 558

ADDED: By 1891 they are in Elswick, Newcastle, transcribed on Anc. as Cales: RG12/4197/18/29
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #46 on: Monday 04 August 25 15:00 BST (UK) »

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #47 on: Monday 04 August 25 18:46 BST (UK) »
This makes no sense at the moment, but since James was in Great Baddow in 1871 & 1881 as a servant to John Crabb it seems too much of a coincidence not to be connected.

There is an article in the Chelmsford Chronicle 31 Dec 1880 about the suicide at Great Baddow of David Spackman, coachman to Mrs Crabb (who I think is the wife of Richard H Crabb).  A witness at the inquest was "Harriet Harris, wife of James Harris of Great Baddow"

The only James Harris I can see in Great Baddow in 1881 is 'your' James, and the only Harriet Harris is on the same census page, just a few properties away:

Harriet Harris 54 b Wyke, Dorset
Harriet Hansford 22 Niece b Great Power(?) Street, City, Middlesex
Beatrice Young 8 Visitor b Woolwich, Kent

By 1891 James & Harriet are back in London, at 73 Pulford Street, St George Hanover Square
James Harris 63 born Brentford, Middx, Coffee Tavern Keeper
Harriet 63 wife b Wyke, Dorset
Harriet 28 Niece b City of London
also three boarders and a servant

(Edited to correct spelling!)
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #48 on: Monday 04 August 25 18:56 BST (UK) »
1 July 1870, Holy Trinity, Paddington

James Harris 44 Widower, Valet of 3 Woodfield Villas. Father: James Harris (deceased) Carpenter
Harriet Hansford 44 Spinster of 3 Woodfield Villas. Father: Robert Hansford (deceased) Farmer
Both signed
Wits: Robert Robertson & Ann Knowle (?)
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.


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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #49 on: Monday 04 August 25 23:35 BST (UK) »
1 July 1870, Holy Trinity, Paddington

James Harris 44 Widower, Valet of 3 Woodfield Villas. Father: James Harris (deceased) Carpenter
Harriet Hansford 44 Spinster of 3 Woodfield Villas. Father: Robert Hansford (deceased) Farmer
Both signed
Wits: Robert Robertson & Ann Knowle (?)

That could explain why i can't find the Elizabeth the mother

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 05 August 25 00:04 BST (UK) »
I would say so, although finding the correct death may be hard as its not exactly a common name and she could be anywhere  :(
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.