Elizabeth Harris, Southall

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FWIW George and Caroline were in the Birmingham area in 1861 with dau Elizabeth b Southall and also a son.  George was on the railways.

Jane :-)

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This is the father's name and occupation from the marriage certificate from the image.

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I had a situation with a family with my other side of the family tree where the a female widower remarried then when she died a few years later.

The current husband then remarried to the step daughter so maybe that Caroline had another child outside of marriage as then the mother's maiden name could be the same as her own mother's

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I think I can rule out the Elizabeth Harris born to Alfred and Elizabeth.

I found a baptism record for Elizabeth in Hillingdon, 1873

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1558/records/4438433?tid=&pid=&queryId=a39e4d2c-a36f-48ae-84b3-3096cf20f7d0&_phsrc=dPp770&_phstart=successSource&_gl=1*6epun1*_up*MQ..*_ga*Mjg1MTExMDUxLjE3NTM2NDI1Nzk.*_ga_4QT8FMEX30*c2Q5ZGRlMmIwLTUzYzctNDM0NC04MDE2LTJmYjI3Njk2MDdhYSRvMSRnMCR0MTc1MzY0MjU3OCRqNjAkbDAkaDA.*_ga_LMK6K2LSJH*c2Q5ZGRlMmIwLTUzYzctNDM0NC04MDE2LTJmYjI3Njk2MDdhYSRvMSRnMCR0MTc1MzY0MjU3OCRqNjAkbDAkaDA.

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Just wondering, do the registry office keep the registration for the wedding. Not the certificate but the application form?

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I don't know if it's her but i may have found her. On the GRO website, there was a birth for Sarah Elizabeth Harris, Uxbridge Union.  1852 MMN Mills. I found a census record of her in 1861.

I think that on the marriage certificate that her father's name was Henry. But on the assumption that none of Elizabeth's sons had Henry as a first or second name. Her children were Joseph and Frank James. I swapped Henry's name for James and there was a baptism for Elizabeth in Norwood.

In the 1861 census, the occupation of James was Valet so I'm hoping guessing thats him   

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8767/records/8410050?tid=&pid=&queryId=e8b72390-3d6a-44b3-a028-f1a5a7a61562&_phsrc=HvT5512&_phstart=successSource

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Have you located the family after the 1861 census 

HARRIS, ELIZA    mmn MILLS 
GRO Reference: 1849  S Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION  Volume 03  Page 387
 
HARRIS, SARAH  ELIZABETH     mmn MILLS 
GRO Reference: 1851  S Quarter in UXBRIDGE UNION  Volume 03  Page 440

James was listed as a Servant on both baptisms

[rosie99]

James Harris(s) is in the household of John Crabb at Gt Baddow in 1871 without the rest of the family, also there in 1881 without the family though is noted as married on both entries.

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I think I found Elizabeth in the 1871 census, but no look for either her mother or sister yet

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7619/records/27360100?tid=&pid=&queryId=3c8360e7-9bc6-4fa3-8398-be8b0cf485e2&_phsrc=HLi2811&_phstart=successSource