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Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« on: Friday 25 July 25 14:18 BST (UK) »
It's a bit of a addendum from yesterdays post about the marriage certificate,
I brought a marriage of Elizabeth Harris thinking it may brake a brick wall, strangely it's added a another layer.

However I can't find any records of her before the marriage such as a birth that lines up with the birth year and no censuses.
She married Charles Hands aged 20 on 10/06/1872 (Birmingham) and her father on the certificate was called Henry who was a "House Steward".

The address in the marriage certificate has another family living there in 1871 and the witnesses are unrelated to any member of the families.
 
Her Death Certificate says was 65 on 13/03/1917 and all the censuses after 1881 says she was born in 1852 Southall, Middlesex .

Any help much appreciated.

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 25 14:58 BST (UK) »
There is an Elizabeth Harris age 8 bn Acton, Middx living with grandparents William & Elizabeth M Young in 1861 Acton - not that far from Southall  :-\
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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 25 15:37 BST (UK) »
In 1851, William and Elizabeth Young have two daughters with them. Caroline Hillary - unmarried so I suspect she is his step daughter age 21 and Sarah Young age 6. There is a birth reg for an Elizabeth Harris mmn Hillary Q3 1853 Brentford district.
Can't yet find a marriage for Caroline to a Mr Harris - hopefully Henry
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 25 16:05 BST (UK) »
Caroline Hillary baptised 4th April 1830 Acton, parents George (occ-carpenter) & Elizabeth).

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 25 16:08 BST (UK) »
In 1841 Elizabeth Hillary with Caroline and other (assumed) children. Possibly widowed as George not with family.
No sign of Caroline after 1851.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 July 25 16:12 BST (UK) »
Why did Elizabeth Harris leave London for Birmingham? Did she have family there?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 July 25 16:12 BST (UK) »
In 1841 Elizabeth Hillary with Caroline and other (assumed) children. Possibly widowed as George not with family.
No sign of Caroline after 1851.

Caroline married William Henry Frapwell 1857--image on Anc*, William died the following year 1858.

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 July 25 16:15 BST (UK) »

Caroline married William Henry Frapwell 1857--image on Anc*

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Well spotted
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Elizabeth Harris, Southall
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 July 25 16:18 BST (UK) »
Maybe Caroline's a widow by 1861 in Bathwick, listed as Carole Frapwick - lodging house keeper
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott