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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 30 August 25 14:01 BST (UK) »
Some just test to find their ethnicity, some discover DNA  isn't as black and white as they imagined, some discover a skeleton in the closet and turn their back on any further research.

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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 30 August 25 14:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the suggestions/comments/experiences. They are all most useful. Some I can't follow through, as (I think) they require a more advanced Anc sub than my friend has, and money is tight.
One question (and sorry if this is naive). In the Anc matches, I have filtered on just Paternal. Within that, when I look at each matches "Shared Matches", they seem fall in to two distinct groups that share (seemingly randomly) with others within that group, but not with the matches in the other group.
Is it a reasonable assumption that these two sub groups of the paternal matches represent my friend's paternal grandfather and paternal grandmother relations?
And further, if I work up a couple of trees for each side, they "should" (could) vector in at my friend's mysterious father?

Lastly (and more of an opinion thing)...
Why do people get tests done, appear as matches, only to not have trees and not have a user name that gives any clues how they might tie in? Not having a go in any way, just curious why.
Question?
Are you OK creating and populating a spreadsheet?

If yes, then look up The Leeds Method.

Create a spreadsheet that replicates what you see in the method and populate it with the DNA matches, including the shared matches.

It should be pretty clear as to which DNA matches are the ones to concentrate further research on.

Lastly, that is the £10,000 question.

A few reasons why:-

A lot of DNA kits are gifts and the recipient is only interested in the Admixture results.

Privacy, for whatever reason the DNA results are not wanted to be effectively shared.

The DNA test and subsequent tree build is more involved than they first thought.

People searching for unknown Parent(s) or Grandparent(s).

Realisation that using DNA results is more involved than they thought.

Odd user name like Fred1234 mean nothing and it may be that they want to keep the results to themselves due to family objections (we have had this posted and I also have a relation who is against my DNA being out there).

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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 12:30 BST (UK) »
Thanks Biggles.
Yes, I'm fine with spreadsheets. I'd started mapping like that in a very lo-tech manner, which I was thinking of upgrading. But didn't want to spend time doing that, if I was not on the right lines. Now you have confirmed, I have upgraded my spreadsheet, which has speeded things up no end, and clusters are popping up for me left, right and centre  ;D
Just need to do a bit more reading up on how to combine/split clusters for slightly different branches now.
Learning so much about this at the moment.
Thanks for all your help and guidance. Much appreciated.

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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 15:05 BST (UK) »
Dale, in case you haven't found them, there are lots of presentations on YouTube. The difficult thing is finding a presenter who doesn't really irritate you.

Zaph


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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 02 September 25 15:17 BST (UK) »
 ;D I'll look out for a presenter that fits the bill

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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 20:45 BST (UK) »
Another couple of questions...
I am in the process of clustering Shared Matches.
If it comes back saying "[match name] and [my friend] have no shared matches", does that literally mean that only that match and my friend share those bits of DNA. Or might some shared matches drop in when Ancestry's server has churned a bit more?
Secondly, I am mapping Shared Matches. Some are forming lovely tidy squares (everyone in that cluster matches with everyone else in that cluster), whereas others are way more jagged. Can anyone conclusions be drawn from either pattern?
Thanks in advance

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Re: Ancestry DNA Match
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 03 September 25 21:45 BST (UK) »
You seem to be making progress, alas it can be a slog at times but one stage at a time does seem to be a reliable way to progress.

DNA recombination is the process of inheritance and it is random in how it works.  The next result is a unique person and hence in siblings what segments each inherent from each of their parents is very different.  Go back to more distant DNA Cousins and they may only share limited segments with another DNA Cousin and it is even possible that a third DNA Cousin does not share any DNA with one or both.  That does not mean that they are not biologically related it is just pot luck that the measured DNA sample gives the result.

To give an example, one of my Wife’s first Cousin has a Grandson who has taken a DNA test and he is a highish DNA match to her.  His Mother is on my Wife’s Maternal line and his Father just happens to also be related but going back to a MRCA on my Wife’s Paternal line in the late 1700’s. 

From this series of branches there are two DNA Cousins (2C to each other) who have a MRCA with my Wife.  Her Cousins Grandson is a DNA match to one but not to the other, such is the random way that DNA is inherited.

In answer to your clustering query can I suggest you read this, it is a link to a MyHeritage site:-

https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/02/introducing-autoclusters-for-dna-matches/

Hope this helps.