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Help with family
« on: Sunday 20 July 25 16:01 BST (UK) »
Hello I’m just wondering if someone could help me with finding out about  John Lewis and Mary Lloyd.

I’m Asking for a friend ?

This is all she has

mary lewis(mother of susan lloyd,nee lewis)she married john lewis 2nd dec 1825 llanllwchaiarn montgomeryshire.Bapt 1806 same place as married

Susan is there daughter Susan lloyd bapt 14th july 1839 canal basin llanllwchaearn newtown montgomeryshire father john mother mary.Siblings john 1826.David bapt 21 march1827, buried 4 april 1827.Richard 1837.Mary 1833.Ann 1835.Then susan 1839 all montgomery marries 2nd august 1858 same place as born


John Lewis  death yet have his bapt 9th june llanllwchaiarn 1808,birth 30th may 1808
 Looking for the deaths of both Mary and John!


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Re: Help with family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 July 25 20:46 BST (UK) »
marriage 2 Dec 1825 is of John Lewis & Mary Lloyd, year incorrectly transcribed here

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC1N-R7V?lang=en

baptism for Susannah Lewis
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FM9Y-68F?lang=en

1841 census, ages of those over 15 rounded down to nearest 5
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M77C-WLZ?lang=en

1851 census HO107/2499 folio 521 pg 3 has both John & Mary aged 50, Mary born Llandinam, not sure what John's birthplace is meant to be.
1861 census, John's place of birth Llanwyddelan
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7FY-HXM?lang=en

The 1808 baptism is unlikely as he is enumerated as 40 in 1841, 50 in 1851 and 63 in 1861. It is also a baptism  recorded in the patronymic form, father Lewis Pryce & mother Mary Goodwin at Tregynon.

Possible burial for Mary?
Llandissilio 25 May 1870 Mary Lewis 70 Canal Bridge
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help with family
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 July 25 21:17 BST (UK) »
possible baptism for John in Llanwyddelan
4 Aug 1799 John son of Richard & Jane Lewis
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help with family
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 July 25 21:35 BST (UK) »
possible baptism for John in Llanwyddelan
4 Aug 1799 John son of Richard & Jane Lewis

Thank you for the above information much appreciated!


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Re: Help with family
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 July 25 22:08 BST (UK) »
You could get the death cert for the Mary who died in 1870 to see if she is noted as wife of or widow of John
Mary Lewis 70 june qtr 1870 Llanfyllin vol 11b pg 177

 
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Help with family
« Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 01:19 »
Yes that’s a good idea

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Re: Help with family
« Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 01:30 »
Age is out, but looks a good possible that John is alive in 1871, living with daughter and family. Place names as transcribed.

1871 - Newton, Montgomeryshire
Piece   5615
Folio   68
Page number   4

Richard Corbett 38 Head
Ann Corbett 35 Wife Llanllwchaiarn, Montgomeryshire
Richard Corbett 17 Son
John Corbett 15 Son
Mary J Corbett 10 Daughter
John Liews   80   Boarder, widower, no employment, Llanwyddelan, Montgomeryshire

Ann Lewis
Marriage Age   18
Birth Date   1835
Marriage Date   23 Jan 1853
Marriage Place   Llanllwchaearn, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Father   John Lewis
Spouse   Richard Corbett

Marriage image online, John not with family in 1881

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 02:16 »
There is this possible, burial image online. Address is Newtown.

John Lewis
Death Age   71
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   1802
Death Date   abt 1873
Burial Date   21 Aug 1873
Burial Place   Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Page number   42

Buried by Vicar of Llanllwchaiarn (only one on page buried by this vicar)

LEWIS, JOHN age  71 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in NEWTOWN  Volume 11B  Page 123

Digital download available from GRO for £3.00 to confirm or rule out.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Help with family
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 02:59 »
There is this possible, burial image online. Address is Newton.

John Lewis
Death Age   71
Record Type   Burial
Birth Date   1802
Death Date   abt 1873
Burial Date   21 Aug 1873
Burial Place   Newtown, Montgomeryshire, Wales
Page number   42

Buried by Vicar of Llanllwchaiarn (only one on page buried by this vicar)

LEWIS, JOHN age  71 
GRO Reference: 1873  S Quarter in NEWTOWN  Volume 11B  Page 123

Digital download available from GRO for £3.00 to confirm or rule out.

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Wow that’s amazing thank you for the information