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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 21 July 25 06:56 BST (UK) »
I had a look at the will of Thomas Wright the banker and when he made it in 1790 he only had four surviving children: Ichabod, Harriett, John Smith and Thomas. That then eliminates his second Elizabeth (b1772) as William Flinders wife.
Back to the original question, who was Elizabeth Wright?
Pearson - Yorkshire
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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 21 July 25 07:40 BST (UK) »
So if William spent his life in Sneinton, only using St Mary's in Notts to get married in, perhaps St Mary's was Elizabeth's parish.

Maybe you need to start with the list if Elizabeth Wright baptisms at St Mary (as posted by Larkspur previously) and see if you can definitely rule out any of those.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
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Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #11 on: Monday 21 July 25 07:49 BST (UK) »
There's also Elizabeth Wright baptised 9 September 1770 at St Peter's Nottingham :-\
Parents Edward and Elizabeth.
Father a Butcher.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684ed894865574398bd4cb1c

At least it gives a potential match age wise, and Edward was the name of the first Flinders son.

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 21 July 25 15:08 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth died 27 December 1847.
Death announcements.

Nottingham Journal, Friday 7 January 1848
At Old Sneinton, on Monday week, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Wm. Flinders, in her 78th year.

Nottingham Review, same day
At Old Snenton, on the 27th ult., in her 78th year, Elizabeth, wife of Mr. Wm. Flinders

Burial at Sneinton, 3 January 1848
Elizabeth Flinders
Abode Dale Street
Age 77 years

The death registration mentioned
FLINDERS, ELIZABETH       
Age at Death (in years): 77 
GRO Reference: 1848  M Quarter in RADFORD UNION  Volume 15  Page 555

So all those agree. Elizabeth was 77 years old when she died, and in her 78th year.
If accurate, it puts her birth in the year 1770.



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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #13 on: Monday 21 July 25 15:28 BST (UK) »
Larkspur has already given a list of possible baptisms for Elizabeth Wright in Notts, I've extended it by looking at all churches and chapels in the town, 1765-75; this gives a total of 8.

1767 02 03      Elisabeth   John   WRIGHT   Kezia         NOTTINGHAM St Mary   (one other child, William)

1768 06 23   Dau   Elizabeth   Thomas   WRIGHT   Mary         NOTTINGHAM Castle Gate, Independent    (already ruled out)

1768 11 21      Elisabeth   William   WRIGHT   Martha      NOTTINGHAM St Mary   (several other baptisms but with names that aren't reused eg Lydia, Anthony, Lucy)

1770 08 18      Elizabeth   John   WRIGHT   Jane            NOTTINGHAM St Mary    (buried 22 Aug 1770)

1770 09 09      Elizabeth   Edward   WRIGHT   Eliz'th   NOTTINGHAM St Peter   (Edward was a butcher. Oldest child, Mary, bapt at independent chapel; 3 more children at St Peter - Nathaniel, Elizabeth, Edward)

1772 08 03      Elizabeth   Charles   WRIGHT   Elizabeth      NOTTINGHAM St Mary   (again, many less common names in this family - Robert, Charlotte, Cornelius, Molly)

1772 08 21   Dau   Elizabeth   Thoms.   WRIGHT   Mary         NOTTINGHAM Castle Gate, Independent     (already ruled out)

1774 01 27      Elizabeth   Anthony   WRIGHT   Elizabeth      NOTTINGHAM St Mary   (The oldest of 5 children to this couple; Elizabeth,Mary, Anthony, Ann, Mary)

1774 11 22      Elizabeth   Thomas   WRIGHT   Susanna      NOTTINGHAM St Mary   (9 baptisms in total, all commonly used names)

1775 03 20      Elizabeth   William   WRIGHT   Elizabeth      NOTTINGHAM St Mary   (8 baptisms - Henry, Mary, Elizabeth x2, James, William, John x2)

jonwarrn has posted whilst I was typing; if 1770 is correct then Edward and Elizabeth look like the parents. Any wills available for Edward?


Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #14 on: Monday 21 July 25 15:29 BST (UK) »
William Flinders and Elizabeth Wright. William was born 1768 in Nottingham and they married in 1790 also in Nottingham.

The marriage at St. Mary was on 23 July 1790
Bare bones from the Phillimore transcript
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684ef115865574398bddac1b

By Banns.
William was of the Parish of Sneinton, Elizabeth of St. Mary
As said, William signed and Elizabeth marked.
Witneses - looks like Samuel Flinders, and the other one was Robert Kirkby, who may have been a regular (or semi-regular) witness.

Baptism of son Edward was five months later, on 15 December 1790 at St. Mary
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684ebaa6865574398bc85d05

If Edward died in 1856, then he was buried at Sneinton, 9 December, age 66.

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #15 on: Monday 21 July 25 15:55 BST (UK) »
if 1770 is correct then Edward and Elizabeth look like the parents. Any wills available for Edward?

Possible burials, perhaps?
Info from FreeReg
22 January 1776, St Mary
Elisabeth Wright, wife of Edward, Chandlers Lane
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/670e99eab18f7cb0ab00d674

10 February 1777, St. Mary
(Mr) Edward Wright, Chandlers Lane
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/671bcb64b18f7cc6640f8c04

If them it would have left daughter Elizabeth orphaned at a young age :(


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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #16 on: Monday 21 July 25 16:04 BST (UK) »
Another possible link to Edward being the father of Elizabeth - if so, Elizabeth had a brother, Nathaniel. A less common name makes him easier to follow.

It looks as though he married Mary Wright in Nott St Mary in 1789. There are baptisms for Nathaniel and Mary as parents at St Mary regularly through to 1815; one has, as his firts name, the maiden name of Nathaniel's mother so I think that is further proof that this is Edward and Elizabeth Wright's son.

The suggestions that point further towards the possibility of Nathaniel being Elizabeth Flinders/Wright's brother are
1. His children's names - similar to William and Elizabeth Wright, viz. Mary, Sarah, Edward, George, Fillingham Nathaniel (that's the surname!), Nathaniel, John, Thomas, Bartholomew, Eliza, William, Edwin, Alfred. I've put in bold the ones that are match William and Elizabeth's family (though of course we must remember that a few names were used very comonly indeed so almost every family had a John or a William or an Elizabeth!)
2. Burial at St Mary for in 1825 for Nathaniel Wright, age 56 (the right age);abode Sneinton. Was he living with/near his sister?
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #17 on: Monday 21 July 25 16:09 BST (UK) »
if 1770 is correct then Edward and Elizabeth look like the parents. Any wills available for Edward?

Possible burials, perhaps?
Info from FreeReg
22 January 1776, St Mary
Elisabeth Wright, wife of Edward, Chandlers Lane
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/670e99eab18f7cb0ab00d674

10 February 1777, St. Mary
(Mr) Edward Wright, Chandlers Lane
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/671bcb64b18f7cc6640f8c04

If them it would have left daughter Elizabeth orphaned at a young age :(

The will of Edward Wright is available on Ancestry; this one was a maltster and leaves bequests to his  daughters Mary Peake and Elizabeth Brown. So probably not this Edward, his children were far too young to be married by 1777.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)