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Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« on: Sunday 20 July 25 08:09 BST (UK) »
My 4xgreat-grandparents are William Flinders and Elizabeth Wright. William was born 1768 in Nottingham and they married in 1790 also in Nottingham. My problem is I am unable to work out which, of the many, Elizabeth Wrights born around 1770 ish actually married William.
Therefore I'm asking if anyone more familiar with Nottingham research can point me in the right direction please.
I have come across some trees on various sites that seem keen to attach Elizabeth to Thomas Wright and Mary Smith, Thomas son of Ichabod Wright and Elizabeth Wildbore. Although it would be nice to have a famous family in my tree I do need to get it right.
Cheers
Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
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Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 July 25 09:00 BST (UK) »
Hi, Did Elizabeth die in 1847 aged 77. That would indicate a dob c 1771. 1841 census records age as 70. I know that ages were meant to be rounded up/down in 1841 bur entries on this particular census are not, so this suggests again a birth c 1771. 1841 suggests she was born in county

Most of the trees on various sites intimate a dob c 1764--I would steer clear of these.

Sadly there are approx 55 baptisms +/- 2 years 1771 for Elizabeth Wrights in Notts, if she came from there. :)

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 July 25 09:29 BST (UK) »
Hi.
  The peerage online gives the family as.
  Thomas Wright. A banker living Mapperley Hall. Wife Mary Smith married 1764.
 Issue. John Smith Wright - became a JP and High Sheriff of Nottingham.I
              Mary Neville Wright d 1784
              Harriet Wright d 1815 married D'Ewes Coke in 1797
              Elizabeth Wright d 1789
              Ichabod Wright 1767-1862 married Harriett Day
              Thomas Wright b 1773 married Sophia Chaplin JP and again a High Sherriff of Nottingham.
 So they have Elizabeths death covered.

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 July 25 10:50 BST (UK) »
There are 7 baptisms for an Elizabeth Wright in Nottingham, St Mary ( marriage Church) 1790 +- 5 years. Which narrows it down considerably if she stayed within the same Church area. Of course no proof she did this! What are the names of her children? As often the names of the grandparents were used.
Baptisms at Nottingham, St Mary For Elizabeth Wright.
3-Feb-1767 Parents John & Kezia
21-11-1768     "      William & Martha
18-8-1770               John & Jane
3-8-1772                 Charles & Elizabeth
27-1-1774                  Anthony & Elizabeth
22-11-1774              Thomas & Susanna
20-3-1775                William & Elizabeth
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley


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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 July 25 12:12 BST (UK) »
 In the area are these births to William and Elizabeth Flinders.

  Edward 1790
 George 1792
Mary A 1794-1796
William 1796-1800 16 November
John 1799-1800 30 November
Eliza 1805-1806
Henry 1807
Alfred 1809 seems to marry in France.

 A tree also assigns a Benjamin b 1803 BUT he marries in 1842 and gives father as Thomas a lace maker.
 Henry seems to marry in Wiltshire returning to Notts later, he lists father as William a lace maker on marriage in 1842.

    Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 July 25 18:53 BST (UK) »
In the area are these births to William and Elizabeth Flinders.

  Edward 1790
 George 1792
Mary A 1794-1796
William 1796-1800 16 November
John 1799-1800 30 November
Eliza 1805-1806
Henry 1807
Alfred 1809 seems to marry in France.

 A tree also assigns a Benjamin b 1803 BUT he marries in 1842 and gives father as Thomas a lace maker.
 Henry seems to marry in Wiltshire returning to Notts later, he lists father as William a lace maker on marriage in 1842.

    Tazzie

The Notts FHS cd has the above baptisms PLUS
another William bapt Oct 1801
Benjamin (Xmas day 1803)
both at NOtts St Mary.


The 1796 burial for Mary Flinders states that she was the WIFE of William
but there's a burial 29.1.1809 who was the DAUGHTER of William (but nb this is Mary, not Mary Ann, so could have belonged to a different family).

Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
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Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
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Upton (Desford, Leics)
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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 July 25 18:57 BST (UK) »
The only baptism in the county in 1768 pof a William Flinders that I can see is this one:

1768 09 13      William   father Samuel   FLINDERS   mother  Ann            SNEINTON St Stephen   

so not actually in Nottingham. Is this the right one? Neither parent's name was used for the baptisms of William and Elizabeth's children   :-\
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
Marshall (Westmorland, Cheshire/Leicester)

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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 July 25 21:46 BST (UK) »
Well found Annie that fills a gap between births.
  The tree I found follows Benjamin that married in 1842 to Mary Taylor but he has father as Thomas on marriage cert.
 I cannot see anymore into for the one you found.
 William b 1801, married Elizabeth Chamberlain.


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Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
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Re: Looking for the right Elizabeth Wright c1770 Please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 21 July 25 00:45 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all your replies.
William Flinders was born and baptised in Sneinton in 1768 and died there in 1850. It seems he spent his whole life there except to get married at St Mary's Nottingham.
Elizabeth Wright died in Sneinton in 1847.
They had ten kids:
Edward 1790-1856
George 1792-1838 (my ancestor)
Mary Ann 1794-1809
William 1796-1800
John 1799-1800
William 1801-1880
Benjamin 1803-1814
Elizabeth 1805-1806
Henry 1807-1877 (Henry married three times the first to Anne Hyde Parrot about whom I know nothing then twice in Lyon)
Alfred 1809-1881 (Alfred and Henry, both lace makers like their father, migrated to Lyon and Alfred married once).

Looking at the Thomas Wright and Mary Smith family I found the following baptisms carried out at the Castle Gate Independent Chapel:
Ichabod 1767
Elizabeth 1769
John 1770
Harriett 1771
Elizabeth 1772 (this is the Elizabeth who could have married William Flinders - but I have my doubts. On the marriage register for William and Elizabeth in 1790 he has a lovely signature and Elizabeth had a mark. I'm thinking that if she was from that prominent family she would most likely have been literate)
John Smith & Thomas (twins) 1773
George 1775

Not sure where that leaves me in my quest but thanks anyway for all your input
Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
Tortoishell - Staffs
Cooper, Freeman, Parnell, Love, Hargreaves - Rutland
Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
Edwards - Greater London/Victoria, Australia
Bartlett, Gee, Padbury - Northants
Rampoley, Allom - Suffolk
Detlefsen, Herse, Iversen, Boisen/Boysen - Denmark
Xylander - Germany
Dundon - Co Limerick
Mullins - Devon