Brickwall with Margaret Brook(e)s from Whitchurch

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it's odd we cannot find baptisms for either Jane, Margaret or Ambrose and we only have the burial for Thomas.

So could they have moved between William 1827 and Ann 1835 possibly into another county? I'm not familiar with the area.

1851 census

Ambrose   Brook   Head   Married   Male   23   1828   Stonemason   Salford, Lancashire, England
Mary   Brook   Wife   Married   Female   21   1830   -   Halton, Cheshire, England
Henry James   Brook   Son   -   Male   0   1851   -   Hulme, Lancashire, England

BROOKES, HENRY  JAMES     mmn WITHINGTON  ***
GRO Reference: 1850  D Quarter in CHORLTON  Volume 20  Page 218

SS

added, Ambrose maintains he was either born Salford or Manchester up and until his death in 1898.
1841 records not born in county

*** with Frederick & Jane Wilkinson in 1871/1881/1891 census

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I found Jane,

Baptised 29 March 1877 at  Holy Trinity Bury. of Thomas and Mary Brookes - Whitchurch Salop- father shoemaker

In the margin it has born 4 November 1832.

 

[Aquitaine]

Hi everyone

Well I never, very well done, amazing - Very well done amondg.
What a find!

A.

[amondg]

A little off the subject, curiosity I'm afraid.

Ambrose married Mary Heys Withington 1849, their son Henry James Brookes was raised by his sister Margaret who married James Cooper.

Did Mary die or did they separate? Ambrose married 1863 Mary J Dixon Sunderland (1871 census) and in 1878 Sarah J Bertram nee Fairley in Sunderland. They had a daughter Louisa - Sept .quarter 1879 reg. Houghton Le Spring.
I cannot see the original marriages 1863 or 1878 to see if he said he was a widower.
 

[Mabel Bagshawe]

The last child I can find was born 1855. He says he's married in 1861, but that's when he's a lodger so that info might not be correct

[softly softly]

A little off the subject, curiosity I'm afraid.

Ambrose married Mary Heys Withington 1849, their son Henry James Brookes was raised by his sister Margaret who married James Cooper.

Did Mary die or did they separate? Ambrose married 1863 Mary J Dixon Sunderland (1871 census) and in 1878 Sarah J Bertram nee Fairley in Sunderland. They had a daughter Louisa - Sept .quarter 1879 reg. Houghton Le Spring.
I cannot see the original marriages 1863 or 1878 to see if he said he was a widower.

I had exactly same issues/feelings. I'm not totally convinced that the Ambrose Brookes/Brooks "Up North" is the same man who married Mary Heys Withington.

Marriage 12th june 1847 Shropshire(image on FindMyPast) Ambrose Brookes(occupation Mason), full age married Ann Howell.  His father Ambrose Brookes occupation Painter. I cannot trace this couple after that date or any possible Brookes/Howell children. So is it Ambrose who married Ann Howell living and marrying "up north"

Still searching.

SS

added--answered my own question.  1861

Ambrose   Brooks   Head of family   Married   Male   46   1815   Labourer   Chester, Cheshire, England
Ann   Brooks   Wife   Married   Female   33   1828   -   Ruabon, Denbighshire, Wales
Amelia   Brooks   Daughter   -   Female   13   1848   Servant   Bold Heath, Shropshire, England
Rosina   Brooks   Daughter   -   Female   9   1852   Scholar   Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
George Henry   Brooks   Son   -   Male   6   1855   Scholar   Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
George   Jagnes   Boarder   Married   Male   26   1835   Engine fitter   Southampton, Hampshire, England

[Aquitaine]

I found the marriage on ancestry as mentioned at Eccles Lancashire and Ambrose Brookes is listed as a stone mason and his father is noted as Thomas Brookes - cordwainer.

I did find a baptism about 1820 on ancestry for a Baptist baptism in Shropshire it wasnt clear any parents listed.

I am inquisitive myself!

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FindMyPast

Thomas Brookes of the parish to Mary Haycox of Stottesdon by banns with consent of parents
31 December 1816 at Neen Savage

Witness John Walker and Lydia Caroline (no surname)

Mary signs Heaycox