A non-Machell

[Neale1961]

1928 Electoral rolls Kooyong, Auburn
13 Carnarvon Street
Irene Grace English – home duties
Ernest Patrick English - labourer

[Neale1961]

Be aware of 2 different couples ----  !

Irene Winnifred DAWE who married Michael Edw ENGLISH in 1921

Irene Grace DAVY who married Ernest Patrick ENGLISH in 1924

[BridgetM]

My Ernest Robert English who became a Machell gives his father’s name as MICHAEL Patrick English, but I’m becoming more convinced that his father’s name was actually Ernest Patrick English. Why he lied, I don’t know?

He does give his mother’s name as Irene Davy.

[Neale1961]

His father died when Ernest Robert was quite young, and if he had been estranged from his father for some years before that, Ernest Robert may just have been confused about his father's full name.

I wonder if Ernest Robert moved away from his father's house when his father re-married in 1937.

[PatLac]

You have been a wonderful help! His mother’s maiden name was actually Dawe, not Davy, as Ernest Robert English/Machell put on his marriage record. I have found 3 of his siblings—born between 1921 and 1924. The parents married in 1921.
Thank you so much!
Bridget

My Ernest Robert English who became a Machell gives his father’s name as MICHAEL Patrick English, but I’m becoming more convinced that his father’s name was actually Ernest Patrick English. Why he lied, I don’t know?

He does give his mother’s name as Irene Davy.

DAWE or DAVY on his marriage record?

[Neale1961]

Ernest Patrick English
Born 4 Nov 1904, Son of John ENGLISH and Margaret BROWN
He enlisted for military service on 1 June 1940
He died from wounds in Nov 1942
Military records are available from NAA
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/56150232/ernest-patrick-english

•   Ernest Patrick ENGLISH  married Irene Grace DAVY  in 1924

1928 Electoral rolls Kooyong, Auburn
13 Carnarvon Street
Irene Grace English – home duties
Ernest Patrick English – labourer

1931 Electoral rolls Kooyong, Glenferrie
17 Bell Street
Ernest Patrick English – labourer
Irene Grace English – home duties

•   Irene Grace ENGLISH died in 1932

1936 Electoral rolls Kooyong, Glenferrie
50 Lynch Street
Ernest Patrick English – labourer
Margaret English - home duties  (This is Ernest’s mother)

•   Ernest Patrick ENGLISH married in 1937 to Margaret Agnes WILLIAMS

1937 Electoral rolls Yarra, Hawthorne
20 Bowen Street
Ernest Patrick English – labourer
Margaret Agnes English - home duties 

50 Lynch Street
Margaret English - home duties 

1941 Electoral rolls Yarra, Hawthorne
154 Burwood Rd
Ernest Patrick English – labourer
Margaret Agnes English - home duties 

[PatLac]

His father died when Ernest Robert was quite young, and if he had been estranged from his father for some years before that, Ernest Robert may just have been confused about his father's full name.

I wonder if Ernest Robert moved away from his father's house when his father re-married in 1937.

Do you mean his mother died when he was quite young?

[Neale1961]

PatLac
Please read the thread thoroughly rather than wasting time with repeated info.

[PatLac]

PatLac
Please read the thread thoroughly rather than wasting time with repeated info.

What repeated info?

BridgeM sais "His mother’s maiden name was actually Dawe, not Davy, as Ernest Robert English/Machell put on his marriage record." and then "He does give his mother’s name as Irene Davy." I just want to know which is the correct info on his marriage record.

And it's his mother who died young (whoever was his mother, both Irene ENGLISH died in 1930 and 1932), not his father.

Irene Grace (nee DAVY) died in Auburn South, which is where Ernest Robert's family lived, right?