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A non-Machell
« on: Thursday 17 July 25 18:11 BST (UK) »
Ernest Robert Machell died 16 November 2014 and was buried Mildura, Mallee, Victoria, Australia. His date of birth is given as 27 September 1925. He had at least 2 sons, who both have children, all with the surname Machell.

But Ernest Robert wasn’t actually born a Machell! He fell out with his parents as a teenager, and moved in with his best friend’s family in Auburn, Chisholm, Victoria, Australia, and “adopted” their surname. Is there anyway to find out what Ernest Robert’s original surname was?

I’m finding Australian records extremely challenging.
Thanks!
Bridget

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:26 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at his marriage?
It is indexed under Machell (actually with a typo as MCHELL)  and English (his wife is Gibbons). You can buy the Victorian certs as a digital image. For $Aus 20

ENGLISH
Ernest Robert
Marriage
GIBBONS, Marie Teresa
1957
17533/1957
GIBBONS
Marie Teresa
Marriage
ENGLISH, Ernest Robert
1957
17533/1957
GIBBONS
Marie Teresa
Marriage
MCHELL, Ernest Robert
1957
17533/1957
MCHELL
Ernest Robert
Marriage
GIBBONS, Marie Teresa

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:31 BST (UK) »
Where can I order a digital copy of the marriage? I knew he’d married Marie Teresa Gibbons, but didn’t know I could see the details.

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:32 BST (UK) »
WW 2 - different date of birth 17 June 1925

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=6052877

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:34 BST (UK) »
Victorian BDMs

Tap on the entry and it takes you to a window where you can choose…just choose the $20 one, then checkout.

https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/6868af1fcd0ea946dc2b2da6/results?q=efamily

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:37 BST (UK) »
Suspecting the date of birth might be false on the ww2 doc. (So as to make him 18 )
Added..twice on that doc the day is entered as 27 and then altered.

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much! I had no idea this site existed!
Bridget

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 July 25 20:54 BST (UK) »
His birth isn’t leaping out though!

Are his parents perhaps Ernest Patrick English & Irene Grace née Davey/Davy
She died 1932 and he remarried
Then he died of wounds in Egypt in 1942.  (Leaves everything to his wife)

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/204295950?searchTerm=Irene%20grace%20English%20hawthorn

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Re: A non-Machell
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 July 25 21:40 BST (UK) »
I am an idiot. Birth won’t show until 100 years after the date. So you will have to wait until 28 Sept for his birth certificate if you need it. (But hopefully the marriage tells you all)
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