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William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« on: Thursday 17 July 25 14:04 BST (UK) »
Thomas tree is sketchy
My grandma Elise Thomas(aka Leslie) as we knew to be her name  till of late   b: Aug 16 1896 in Morriston Glam her parents were William Thomas and Rachel Williams  She also had a brother Tom he was older than her.
Grandma said her mum Rachel passed away when she was two years of age
I don't know much about the Thomas family as for the father William  he  I believe was born in Morriston as well,
Its believed that he was a business owner, (I don't have anything to back that up)
My Grandma was a head nurse in WW1 and rumoured she met her husband at a hospital when she tripped over his tools 
William Thomas remarried a woman who had 2 daughters, and they and my grandma all went into nursing 
My grandma Elsie Thomas and Grandfather William Henry Phillips were married and did immigrate to Canada in 1926 
Any help would be great, 
Thanking you in advance

Leslie Utting  aka williesbaby 

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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 July 25 14:26 BST (UK) »
Is her christian name ELISE or ELSIE.

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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 July 25 14:44 BST (UK) »
Just bookmarking as looked around with little luck.
Trees seem way off that mention her.

So many birth reg for Thomas girls mmn Williams 1896.
No obvious Marriage Reg found either to William Henry Phillips.

Will leave it to you SS as I am off to bed :)
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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 17 July 25 14:53 BST (UK) »
Mary Phillips age 29 arrived in Montreal on 3 Oct 1926 from Southampton
   

There is more info, names an Aunt and Husband already in Country I think

I do not have access to this maybe someone else has???
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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 July 25 15:22 BST (UK) »
I find it very difficult to read but it says mother occupation housewife born England

Transcription has final destination Toronto

Spouse Dom Phillip who is also person in Canada

Person in Old Country (presume that means UK) Mrs D Aunt

Ship name Alaunia

Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 July 25 16:45 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat  :)


My grandma Elise Thomas(aka Leslie) as we knew to be her name  till of late   b: Aug 16 1896 in Morriston Glam her parents were William Thomas and Rachel Williams  She also had a brother Tom he was older than her.

My grandma Elsie Thomas and Grandfather William Henry Phillips were married and did immigrate to Canada in 1926 


I can see a Wm Phillips leaving Liverpool on the Letitia in August 1926 - his address Penrice? St, Morriston - occupation Fitter  :-\

Do you have Elsie's birth certificate ?
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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 July 25 17:31 BST (UK) »
Quote from Rosie99

I can see a Wm Phillips leaving Liverpool on the Letitia in August 1926 - his address Penrice? St, Morriston - occupation Fitter 

Believe I can start the ball rolling here. Believe this is the father with 2nd wife.

1911 census--4 Penrice St Morriston, Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales

William   Thomas   Head   Married   Male   52   1859   Collery carpentar   Carmarthen Llangathen
Anna   Thomas   Wife   Married   Female   50   1861   -   Cardigan Clyde
Mary   Thomas   Daughter   Single   Female   20   1891   -   Glamorgan Morriston
William   Jophep   Boarder   Single   Male   29   1882   Tin work blacksmeth   Glam Morriston

William & Anna married 6 years


Marriages Jun 1905   

Thomas    Anna        Swansea    11a   1515    
THOMAS    William        Swansea    11a   1515

Same address in 1921 BUT No. 1


THOMAS, MARY  ETHEL     mmnEVANS 
GRO Reference: 1891  M Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 893

This was the address William Phillips was at in 1926 --his father in laws.

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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 July 25 19:33 BST (UK) »
This is the other step daughter of William Thomas.

1939-1 Penrice Street, Swansea, Swansea C.B., Glamorganshire, Wales

THOMAS, MARGARET  ANN     EVANS            her dob 5th August 1889  see occupation in 1939

GRO Reference: 1889  S Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 765

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added, probate record for Anna Thomas 1940 names both daughters, Margaret Ann & Mary Ethel.

Probate record of William Thomas of 1, Prenrice Street, Morriston, died 1st December 1926. To Anna Thomas £246,3s 6p

THOMAS, WILLIAM       aged 68 
GRO Reference: 1926  D Quarter in SWANSEA  Volume 11A  Page 960

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Re: William Thomas married a Rachel Williams,
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 July 25 01:50 BST (UK) »
You're all amazing. I had the address Penrice one time in the 1970s my mom and dad went to Wales mom had a spattering of some information but not really a lot however her paternal side which is Phillips they are so easy to find. All of  you that took the time to assist me, you've have been amazing my goodness.

 Thank you so much for everything it gives me a little more to dig on now.  I'm just responding today, it  is July 17th 2025 and I'm in Ontario Canada and it is 8:45 p.m
Kind regards

Leslie
Aka williesbaby.