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Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« on: Wednesday 16 July 25 15:34 BST (UK) »
Hello - I am interested in learning  how would people travelled from Mittelheim to their ship in Hamburg in 1854 - they were vinedressers who were going to New South Wales in Australia.

Are there records online of any passport applications they would have completed for the journey and were there any requirements for these people undertaking this journey. 

Lastly what route would the ships have sailed from Hamburg to Sydney New South Wales, Australia?
thank you for your assistance.
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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 July 25 19:39 BST (UK) »
Trove - OZ newspapers 1854
Doesn't answer your specific questions (other than Melbourne was en route) but gives an idea of length of journey etc
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/28640603?searchTerm=hamburg%20sydney
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/687266?searchTerm=hamburg%20sydney

Do you know the name of the ship?. If so, check it's arrival on Trove.
I'm checking Hamburg departures.

Have you checked FamilySearch?

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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 July 25 19:49 BST (UK) »
Modern passports started in 1920:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passport


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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 July 25 23:48 BST (UK) »
Hi hanes teulu and tonepad - Thank you for your replies. I have checked both trove and familysearch and assisted immigration records in NSW. None provide details on how they made the journey from their home to the port of Hamburg.
the record that someone indicated was a passport must have been personal details provided before the voyage.
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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 July 25 08:17 BST (UK) »
Your post appears to ask for more than just travel from Mittelheim to Hamburg?
zum Beispiel,

Schwabischer Merkur:mit Schwabischer Kronikund Handelszeitung; Suddeutsche Zeitung
Samstag, 25.03.1854   

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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 July 25 04:21 BST (UK) »
Hi hanes teulu - thank you for the the image you have posted - it looks like and advertisement in a newspaper or a shipping schedule in said newspaper - my German is not good as I rely on google translate or my handy dictionary!
I have ancestors who migrated to NSW Australia aboard the Caesar that left Hamburg on 11 November 1854 and arrived Sydney 27 March 1855.
As they lived in Mittelheim I was interested in how they would have made the journey from their town to the port of Hamburg - could they have travelled overland in coaches or via railway or taken boats via the river system or a combination of river and land travel. Also would they have had to pay their own travel expenses to the port? It is quite a distance between the two areas!
I would love to find an advertisement or shipping notice for the Caesar like the one you posted - would you know where I could access this information?
Many thanks
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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 July 25 07:33 BST (UK) »
Newspaper Ad -
Passengers and Emigrants for Australia - the Meteor will be sailing direct from Hamburg for Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide on 15 April. What I hadn't established with certainty was whether it went via Cape Horn or Cape of Good Hope - I think the latter.

German newspapers
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothek.de/newspaper

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Re: Route from Mittelheim to Hamburg in 1854
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 July 25 07:57 BST (UK) »
There was an extensive canal & river system in Germany in the 1800s.
The Rhine, Elbe, Ems and other waterways.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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