James Oliver brn 1833 Sithney

[Ladyhawk]

Mother Amelia remarries 1894 to John Joseph Moyses Stephens.

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I was wondering if this might be her in 1901

Amelia Stephens Age   50 wid. housekeeper domestic
Birth Place   Arbroath, Scotland
Registration District   Penzance
1901
Piece   2258
Folio   34
Page number   5

Edit to add - red writing

Amelia Andrew Stephens
Death 20 Nov 1917 Falmouth, Cornwall Unitary Authority, Cornwall
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/177287193/amelia-stephens

[Malm55]

Thanks CaroleW and Ladyhawke for your inputs into my query.
So I can assume that the William James Oliver who was in the 1891 as a student at Reedham School and listed as born in Helston Cornwall, died in February 1892 and was buried on 22 February at St John’s Coulsdon, which is next door to Reedham School.
Thank you everyone.

Regarding CaroleW’s question re Amelia Oliver, she remarried in 1894 to my g/grandfather John Joseph Moyses Stephens in Falmouth Cornwall.

I have still the problem of what happened to William James father, the fact that William was in a children’s home 200 miles away from his mother is puzzling, the requirement for admission at Reedham School was that the child must be father less and destitute. 

I’ll keep digging, thanks again.

[CaroleW]

Amelia is still in Cornwall in 1911 working as a servant but shown as married for 17yrs??

Can't see a death for husband pre 1911 JJM Stephens was b 1855 Helston.  According to a tree on Ancestry he died 1946 which is confirmed by the freebmd entry - aged 91

[softly softly]

STEPHENS, JOHN  JOSEPH MOYSES    aged91 
GRO Reference: 1946  J Quarter in KERRIER  Volume 05C  Page 174

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[CaroleW]

JJM Stephens married in 1918 to Elizabeth MF Johns

He died 28.6.1946 - no will - administration granted to Thomas Henry Stephens & Percy Drayden Stephens

Percy Dreaden Stephens was b 1887 mmn Pryor
Thomas Henry Stephens b 1884 mmn Pryor

Tree on Ancestry shows wife as Martha Pryor.  There is a marriage in Helston 1878 to John Stephens but no middle names

There is a 1915 death in Helston for Amelia Stephens aged 67

[CaroleW]

Per www.scotlandspeople.org.uk

Amelia Andrew b 6.7.1851 Angus - parents John Andrew & Mary Blew.  In 1861 & 1871 she is living with her parents in Helston.  In 1851 the family are in St Vigeans Angus

Can’t find anything on James Oliver

[Malm55]

Thanks everyone, especially CaroleW,  I will check and add all the information to my tree.
I guess JAMES OLIVER doesn’t want to be found, I am on Ancestry but not with a newspaper or world wide subscription, maybe he was imprisoned due to him being made bankrupt in 1882 or emigrated aboard, or he was not dead by 1891 and that his wife, Amelia who stated in the 1891 census that she was a WIDOW, LIED. Who knows.
Thanks All

[Neale1961]

Amelia Andrew b 6.7.1851 Angus - parents John Andrew & Mary Blew.  In 1861 & 1871 she is living with her parents in Helston.  In 1851 the family are in St Vigeans Angus

Amelia Andrew - 1851 census in Scotland
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59027423e9379091b101551d/john-andrew-1851-angus-forfarshire-st-vigeans-1814-?locale=en



John ANDREW married Mary BLEW
13 June 1839 in Budock, Cornwall
John – 25, bachelor, mariner. Son of Richard Andrew a shoemaker
Mary – 25, spinster. Daughter of John Blew a cabinetmaker
Witnesses – John Blew and Jenney Ann Blew


Mary BLEW born 18 June 1813
Baptised Falmouth 28 July 1813
Parents - John and Elizabeth, cabinet maker