William Oliver ...missing from census records

[ShaunJ]

I wonder which pub he was a landlord of?

The next household entry in the 1841 census of Cawsand is another publican: Henry Chapell. In 1844 Pigots directory, Henry Chapell had the Pilot Boat pub.

Other inns & pubs listed in Cawsand in 1844 Pigots: 

The Barley Sheaf - Richard Jope. he is a publican in Town Place in the 1841 census.

The Ship - Thomas Trist. 

At first pass I don't see Thomas Trist in the 1841 census so it could be that William Oliver had the Ship at that time.

[Drobs]

Thanks Shaun

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you. I was told that William's arents were William and Elizabeth (Paul) Oliver but wasn't sure how to check this as it's before the census records began?

1881 census gives pob Maker Devon & 1861/1871 pob Kingsand Devon - there is this transcript on Anc*y but no image to view his pob Maker Cornwall

William Oliver
Baptism 11 Sep 1805 Maker,Cornwall
Father   William Oliver Mother    Elizabeth

https://www.genuki.org.uk/searcha?keys=Kingsand&antibot_key=tXhAIa8bqmDZVzU1SqWfikoOXPR24nLh9ZbTlszBqEg
Snippets from above link
Maker
- Cornwall - Place
… tithing, which is in Devonshire, and includes the beautiful seat of Mount Edgcumbe , the parish church, the village of Kingsand

The two villages in Maker and Rame are Kingsand and Cawsand. A few fisherman were settled here……

[Ladyhawk]

Thank you. I was told that William's arents were William and Elizabeth (Paul) Oliver but wasn't sure how to check this as it's before the census records began?

Family search has this 1801 marriage William Oliver or Elizabeth Pall - but no image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N2C6-P4G?lang=en

There are also these baptisms in Maker Cornwall parents named William & Elizabeth,
same as William no image to view on Anc* y - England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Joseph Oliver 15 Feb 1801
Mary Paul Oliver 14 Apr 1805
William Oliver 4 Dec 1803
Thomas Oliver 23 Apr 1810
Peter Oliver 19 Apr 1808
Samson Prinn Oliver 26 May 1812

[Neale1961]

Marriage Banns 4 Feb 1801 Maker
William OLIVER Shipwright of this parish
Elizabeth PALL spinster of this parish


Children of William and Elizabeth baptised in Maker
•   Jane Oliver 15 Feb 1801
•   William Oliver 4 Dec 1803
•   Mary Paul Oliver 14 Apr 1805
•   William Oliver 11 Sep 1805
•   Peter Oliver 19 Apr 1808
•   Thomas Oliver 23 Apr 1810
•   Samson Prinn Oliver 26 May 1812



William Oliver (age 46) burial 4 Oct 1811  (born abt 1765)
Maker, Cornwall

Elizabeth Oliver (age 53) burial 31 July 1826  (born abt 1773)
Residence - Cawsand


ADDED ---
There was a Will for William Oliver, Fisherman of Maker, from 1811
Indexed only in the 'Calendar of Wills and Administrations: Devon and Cornwall: 1532-1800': The original wills were destroyed in 1942 in the bombing of the Exeter Register Office.

https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org

[Drobs]

Thank you very much for your reply and the excellent information

[KGarrad]

Ok thanks also noticed mention of 'not in county'

From GenUKI:
MAKER parish, which occupies a great part of the bold promontory and peninsula, which juts out into the English Channel on the west side of Plymouth Sound, and the south side of the harbour of Hamoaze, opposite Stonehouse and Devonport, is partly in Cornwall, and contains 2725 inhabitants and 2260 acres of land, of which 1156 souls and about 1320 acres are in VAULTERSHOME tithing, which is in Devonshire, and includes the beautiful seat of Mount Edgcumbe, the parish church, the village of Kingsand, and part of Millbrook.

Kingsand was still in Devon until 1844 and the boundary stone between the two counties is still opposite the Halfway Hotel, separating Turk Town (Cawsand) and the North Rockers (Kingsand). Intense rivalry between the two villages continued well into the 20th century.

https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/CON/Maker