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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 13 July 25 20:47 BST (UK) »
Well done Willsy  :).  That also shows her as M for Married  :-\

I see the address is 10 St John Street the same as the following census
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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 July 25 20:52 BST (UK) »
Thanks but good call from you first!

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Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 July 25 20:55 BST (UK) »
There is an Elizabeth Smith at at 10 St John St in 1891 too  ;D

With her is her son in law Joseph Hawkings and dtr Emma Hawkings  :-\. The M for married is blotted over
RG12
Piece 2534
Folio 106
Page 29
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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 July 25 22:29 BST (UK) »
Had a look at burials after finding Amelia Hawkins death and there are 3 Hawkins children buried at Welford Road, the first died at John Street.

MMN is Astley

Emma Astley, age 19, father Thomas Astley, Lab., married Joseph Hawkins, age 21, Finisher, father Charles Hawkins, Hosiery, 5 Aug 1888, St. Paul's Leicester.
Wits. Alfred Bird, Ada Hawkins

There are 6 people in the plot but the only burial near the children's death is a

Beatrice Johnson bur 23 Mar 1894 of Sandiacre Street age 3

Hawkins
Rose   1890   Jul17   7mths   JOHN STREET
Horace 1894   May   8   23mths   Lower Sandiacre Street
Amelia 1894   May 8   3   Lower Sandiacre Street

Willsy

Ward, Ossett, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #13 on: Monday 14 July 25 08:31 BST (UK) »
Good morning all and thank you for your efforts.  I have deleted all my other census apart from 1861 and gone back to the drawing board!  Start again! Elizabeth Goodman did marry Joseph Smith.

I have gone further back for you - I started with Joseph Allen who married Emily Goodman St Margarets Leicester in 1863 13 April. They end up in Hunslet Yorkshire. I know from the GRO births of her children her surname was Goodman. This is on FindMyPast  - her father is noted as Edward Goodman ?? not so sure about that, but I thought I got her birth Emily Mary Gee Goodman illegitimate dau of Elizabeth Goodman bpt 1 Sep 1847 St George Leicester also Edward Gee 25 Sep 18 Illegitimate son of Elizabeth Goodman born 1 Morton's Yard Wigston Street Leicester.

So have I got the wrong people??  If you say Emily married a "Hawkings"   
I appreciate all your efforts, this is a family I leave alone and come back to.

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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #14 on: Monday 14 July 25 08:51 BST (UK) »
Hi just a note for Willsy

Are the Welford Road Cemetery records available anywhere else than Deceasedonline do you know ?

thanks A.

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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #15 on: Monday 14 July 25 09:33 BST (UK) »
Welford Cemetery records are on the National burial index which is available on FindMyPast
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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #16 on: Monday 14 July 25 09:46 BST (UK) »
Is the census correct giving Joseph Hawkins as Son in law of Elizabeth Smith.

At least Elizabeth Smith is constant by living at 10 St John St in 1871/81/91.  She is not there in 1901 though.
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Good morning all and thank you for your efforts.  I have deleted all my other census apart from 1861 and gone back to the drawing board!  Start again! Elizabeth Goodman did marry Joseph Smith.

I have gone further back for you - I started with Joseph Allen who married Emily Goodman St Margarets Leicester in 1863 13 April. They end up in Hunslet Yorkshire. I know from the GRO births of her children her surname was Goodman. This is on FindMyPast  - her father is noted as Edward Goodman ?? not so sure about that, but I thought I got her birth Emily Mary Gee Goodman illegitimate dau of Elizabeth Goodman bpt 1 Sep 1847 St George Leicester also Edward Gee 25 Sep 18 Illegitimate son of Elizabeth Goodman born 1 Morton's Yard Wigston Street Leicester.


Now I am confused  ;D.

Could you tell us how you have got back to this family
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Re: Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester
« Reply #17 on: Monday 14 July 25 10:03 BST (UK) »
Just looking at the 1863 marriage between Emily Goodman and Joseph Allen.  The address for Emily ties in with the 1861 we have for Joseph Smith, Elizabeth Smith etc.  Her age is 17, it was 14 on the census.  So that looks right.

I suspect that an (Edward?) Gee could be the father of the two illegitimate children of Elizabeth Goodman / Smith

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Presumably it is Elizabeth Goodman living in Mortons Yard in 1841 with mother Mary & siblings
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