Anyone researching Goodman and Smith in Leicester

[Aquitaine]

Hi all, I need help  I am trying to unravel these families, especially with the surname Goodman and Smith in 19th century. Working in GRO deaths for Elizabeth Smith who I know alive in 1911 living at 80 Kensington Street Leicester aged 85 yrs. Different ages on census. She was born Elizabeth Goodman and married Joseph Smith in 1858 Leicester her father John Goodman. Joseph Smith died after 1891 he was a shoemaker she had two children illegitimate before Edward Gee Goodman (1848-) and also a daughter Emily Mary Gee Goodman (1847-1892)

Elizabeth Smith died after 1911 Leicester
Joseph Smith died after 1891 Leicester

I have some trawling through GRO deaths for both Joseph and Elizabeth and been looking Welford Road Cemetery on deceased online as so many with this surname.  Thanks.

[cath151]

Hi,
Not researching those names but there is a death notice for Elizabeth Smith from 80 Kensington Street, Leicester in Leicester Chronicle September 11th 1915.
Cathy
Added Leicester evening mail 7th September 1915 gives her age as 89.

[Aquitaine]

Hi there thanks for your interest sorry it isnt the one Elizabeth Goodman married Joseph Smith in 1858 in Leicester.  She was widowed so I think Joseph Smith was in the workhouse 1891 if I have the correct one.  Thanks though.

[rosie99]

That newspaper article matches the death you have posted here

Hi all, I need help  I am trying to unravel these families, especially with the surname Goodman and Smith in 19th century. Working in GRO deaths for Elizabeth Smith who I know alive in 1911 living at 80 Kensington Street Leicester aged 85 yrs.

[rosie99]

1861
Joseph age 30 bn Loughborough occ Cordwainer
Elizabeth age 34 bn Leicester
children
Helena Smith 2
Edward Goodman 12
Emily Goodman 14

Where do you have Joseph and Elizabeth in later census

[Aquitaine]

Hello everyone,

in 1858 Leicester Joseph Smith married Elizabeth Goodman (noted as Ann Elizabeth) a spinster, he was a shoemaker.  She was born Belgrave Leicester.GRO certificate for Register Office Leicester Joseph Smith 30 yrs bachelor Shoemaker 20 Baker Street Belgravegate Leicester his father Joseph Smith Shoemaker married Ann Elizabeth Goodman Spinster 23 yrs 19 Baker Street Belgravegate Leicester her father John Goodman (dec) bricklayer

Yes the 1861 is the one I have.

1871 Barrow on Soar Mill Hill Joseph Smith 62 yrs,Elizabeth 50 yrs Edward Smith 11 yrs. (is that Edward Gee Goodman)

1881 Barrow on Soar Joseph Smith 72 yrs FWK (frame work knitter) born Nottinghamshire Elizabeth 60 yrs born Belgrave and Edward 21 yrs stonemason born Belgrave Leicester

1891 Leicester Lunatic Aslyum Joseph Smith 62 yrs

1901 80 Kensington Street Leicester Edward Smith ( I think he should be Goodman) Frances E Smith Elizabeth Smith mother widower 75 yrs Joseph Smith brother shoe riviter and Clara Smith neice

I dont know if I have got these jumbled up or twisted so bear with me! I am just trying to finish off these two families. I might have got some of this wrong.. thank you

[rosie99]

Edward Goodman was born 1848
GOODMAN, EDWARD  GEE     - 
GRO Reference: 1848  Sept Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 15  Page 106

1861 that I posted he was age 12.

He can't be Edward Smith in 1871 age 11 and age 21 in 1881 
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There is a possibility that Edward Goodman married Mary Elizabeth Hardy in Leicester 2nd October 1879 - he lists his father as Joseph Goodman occ Shoemaker

[rosie99]

In 1881 Edward Goodman is with his mother Elizabeth Smith.  Also there his wife Mary and son Edward Goodman.

Elizabeth is 57 or 59 -Married -occ Box Maker.  FindMyPast have her age as 37
Address 10, St John Street, Leicester St Margaret, Leicester
RG11
Piece  3170
Folio 81
Page 17

Edward Goodman son of Edward & Mary
GOODMAN, EDWARD    mmn   HARDY 
GRO Reference: 1880  M Quarter in LEICESTER  Volume 07A  Page 237

[willsy]

1871 as Smith

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tva/

Elizabeth Smith 46 married head and fancy box maker with Edward 22 and Ellen Smith 12

**ADDED St. John Street