The widow Eugenie Caroline Theodore Rinsby died in Lowerhill nr Richmond, London

[Axonais]

According to correspondence in the State Archives in Munich, Bavaria, the widow Eugenie Caroline Theodore Rinsby died in the house of Mrs Cholmley in Lowerhill near Richmond, London, in 1806. Her own family name was Ravanel. She came from a Swiss family living in Zweibrücken in the Palatinate of the Rhine and was born in 1751. She had a sister married to a privy counsellor to the king of Bavaria, named Joseph Bouchet d’Epreville, living in Mannheim in 1810 and 1815.

Mrs. Rinsby’s will and probate can be found in the National Archives, Kew - Prerogative Court of Canterbury, dated 12 March 1810. reference PROB 11/1509/222. The will was signed in Langton in the North Riding of Yorkshire 13 January 1801. From it we learn that she had a relationship with the families of Mrs Colmley and Goulton. These ladies can be identified as Ann Jesse Cholmley née Smelt, wife of Nathaniel Cholmley (1721-1791), and Dorothea Goulton née Smelt of St John Delpike in York, wife of Thomas Goulton of the par. of St Mary’s Beverley, Yorkshire Eastriding. They were daughters of Leonard Smelt and his wife Ann Fairbridge. Leonard Smelt died in Langton Hall, Little Langton 2 September 1800. Mrs Rinsby most probably was a lady-companion to Leonard Smelt in Langton. His biography is in the Dictionary of National Biography.

The exact place and date of Mrs Rinsby’s death have not yet been found. Could somebody supply that information (with source) ?

Any further information on Mrs Rinsby and her relations with the Cholmley and Goulton families will be very welcome.

Many thanks in advance.

[PatLac]

What is this 1807 reference here?

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[Axonais]

Dear PatLac,
Thanks for replying to my query. The reference you found on internet is a file in the Munich State Archives concerning the succession of Eugenie Caroline Theodore Rinsby née Ravanel. It contains correspondence between the Ministry of Foreign Affaires in Munich, the Bavaria ambassador in London and Mr. Joseph Bouchet d’Epreville about this succession during the years 1814 and 1815. The data in this file have been used for composing my query.

[PatLac]

Thanks Axonais, but does it refer to her date of death in 1806 or 1807?

[PatLac]

Anything here?


... Donation considerable Legnee la Mad nne Preville, dans et par la demiere Volonte et Testament Madame Eugenie Caroline Theodore Rinsby, veuve detunte, Soeur de dite Madame Previile. Donation mentionec comprend tout le reste du bien personnel de la Testatrice ...
Published: Monday 06 March 1815

Newspaper: Sussex Advertiser
County: Sussex, England
Type: Advertisement | Words: 230 | Page: 3

[Axonais]

Dear Patlac,
According to the Munich file her death was in Lower Hill near Richmond in 1806 or perhaps 1807.  Her will was probated only in 1810. I found the advertisement in the Sussex Advertiser of 6 March 1815, just as you did, but I don’t know its full text jet. Would be great if you could be of help to find it somewhere. Please note the date 6 March 1815. The advertisement must have been placed in direct relation with the correspondence in 1814 and 1815.

[PatLac]

Unfortunately I don't have a subscription  Let's hope someone else can check it for you.

I wonder if her married name has been misspelled? Rinsby is not a common surname.

On Ancestry her name has been transcribed Eugenie Caroline Theodora which makes more sense than Theodore.

[jonwarrn]

It's published in German and French
The French one...

SI Madame De PREVILLE maintenant ou dernierement residente a Manheim en Allemagne, est veuve, ou en cas de mort, ses plus prochies parents s'adresseront a Mr. JACQUES CHAMP, de la Ville de CHICHESTER, dans le Conte de Sussex, et dans le Royaume de la Grande Bretagne, Avocat et Notaire Public, ou a Mr. JEAN CLARK, No. 35, Southampton Buildings, Chancery-Lane, a Londres, pour prendret des informations sur une Donation considerable Legace a la dire Madame de Preville, dans et par la derniere Volonte et Testament de Madame Eugenie Caroline Theodore Rinsby, veuve defunte, Soeur de la dite Madame de Preville.
La Donation mentionee a dessus comprend tout le reste du bien personnel de la Testatrice.
N. B. Le Mari de Madame de Preville etoit autrefois conseiller du dernier Duc de Deux Ponts.
JAS. CHAMP.
27th Feb. 1815.

[jonwarrn]

The German one attached