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Re: Palmist
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 07:49 BST (UK) »
An item in the South African Archives
ILLIQUID CASE DAMAGES - BREACH OF CONTRACT
STEPHANIE WALLACE-BRUCE VERSUS AFRICAN ASSOCIATED NEWSPAPERS LIMITED.
Identifier: ZA TAB WLD_0_1275/1939_1
Repository: National Archives Repository (Public Records of former Transvaal Province and its predecessors as well as of magistrates and local authorities)

I wonder what happened?

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 07:51 BST (UK) »
The Wolfe family returned from Melbourne to London in May 1901. Stephanie is the youngest child, recorded as 2 years old. Mother and children travelled on one ship, and Dr Wolfe (father) travelled on a different ship, but in the same month. Separate ships - Odd?

I could not find a birth record for Stephanie in Australia, but there are birth records for her 2 older siblings.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 07:54 BST (UK) »
I can find no shipping record of Barry or Stephanie travelling from England to South Africa, under the surnames Bruce or Wallace. Might they have travelled under a different name?

Also I could not see them in the British 1939 register (taken in Sept), so they may have left the UK earlier than that.

Added - the 1921 census has them living in Edinburgh.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 07:55 BST (UK) »
I wonder if his was slightly grander and paid for by the employer, and the other ship was a little more affordable? Or did he want total peace and quiet? :D


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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 07:57 BST (UK) »
I can find no shipping record of Barry or Stephanie travelling from England to South Africa, under the surnames Bruce or Wallace. Might they have travelled under a different name?

Also I could not see them in the British 1939 register (taken in Sept), so they may have left the UK earlier than that.

It wouldn't surprise me a different name , I had been told they went on the first day of the war but I've not seen anything .

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 08:02 BST (UK) »
I wonder if his was slightly grander and paid for by the employer, and the other ship was a little more affordable? Or did he want total peace and quiet? :D

They were all travelling Saloon (1st) class. I think Dr Wolfe may have been a through passenger from Sydney to Melbourne and then on to London, whereas the wife and children boarded in Melbourne.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 08:04 BST (UK) »
I wonder if his was slightly grander and paid for by the employer, and the other ship was a little more affordable? Or did he want total peace and quiet? :D

They were all travelling Saloon (1st) class. I think Dr Wolfe may have been a through passenger from Sydney to Melbourne and then on to London, whereas the wife and children boarded in Melbourne.

That is very odd

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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 09:03 BST (UK) »
A nurse travelled with Mrs WOLFE.
So she certainly had support to assist with the children.

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Re: Palmist
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 11:00 BST (UK) »
Scotlands People, Wick Births, County of Caithness
Barry Wallace Bruce, born 10 Dec 1893, 9hrs 30 mins AM, Sex F (sic), address Gowrie House, Parish of Wick,
Father William Bruce, Merchant Draper, Mother Barbara Bruce, née Thomson

Caithness Courier, 23 July 1886
At Gowrie House, Wick on the 15th inst, the wife of William Bruce, jr., draper, of a son

John O'Groats Journal, 15 Dec 1893
At Gowrie House, on the 10th inst, William Bruce, draper, of a son

John O'Groats Journal, 15 Dec 1893
DEATHS - At Gowrie House, on the 13th inst, Barbara Thomson, beloved wife of William Bruce, draper, age 35

The couple married 25 Jun 1885 at Inverness