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Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« on: Friday 11 July 25 19:01 BST (UK) »
Hi all, this is my first post so apologies if I ask daft questions  ::)

I have received my husbands grandfather's record of service from the Air Disclosure Branch.

Problem is it has SO much information and some of the handwriting is pretty bad (I know, there was a war on) it also seems to just be quite haphazard with information all over.

I'm posting on here to see if anyone is able to decipher all or any of the information here and maybe give us some insight on what he did, where he was stationed etc. I'm sure that the abbreviations would make more sense to people who knew what they mean! I've omitted page 3 as it is the same as page 1 but literally just has name and number.

Thank you so much in advance.

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 July 25 19:03 BST (UK) »
Now it's posted I've realised I've posted 3 and not 4!  ::)

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 July 25 22:52 BST (UK) »
Page 1.

Selected by Headquarters South East Asia Air Command for Air Gunner training 27/9/43
WSI stands for War Service Increment - a gratuity added to his pay

Under time Forfeited the reason is various periods of absence (without leave) for which he lost pay and days towards good conduct awards. The loss of pay is noted at the foot of the column.

His ranks were:
AC2 - Aircraftman class 2
AC1 - Aircraftman Class 1
T LAC  - Temporary Lance Corporal see comment from rafcommands below
T Cpl - Temporary Corporal
T Sgt - Temporary Sergeant
T F Sgt - Temporary Flight Sergeant 
Temporary rank was used for servicemen who had only joined up for the duration of the war and were therefore held against a War establishment for manning and pay purposes.  The pay, duties and responsibilities etc were the same as for regular career servicemen.

Page 2.
3 RC Padgate was the Recruit Centre at Padgate in Warrington. HH means Home posting, ie not overseas
58 MU - Maintenance Unit. 58 MU was based at RAF Newark and was a depot where aircraft were stored, serviced and upgraded or cannibalised depending on their serviceability. He was a radio mechanic at the time.
He then moved to Iraq en route to India
The remainder of the entries below relate to his various admissions and discharges from hospital. BMH stands for British Military Hospital (Calcutta) from where he was transferred to the British General Hospital Poona. Later he was admitted to IG Hospital - I don't know where that was, and the remainder of the entries at the foot of that page are too unclear to read.
The column headed mustering provides details of his trades. Initially he was an equipment assistant, then became a radio mechanic before becoming an W/T Air gunner, that is to say a radio operator and air gunner - which meant he was part of the aircrew. The next section to the right of 'mustering' gives the dates of his various promotions and his proficiency gradings, sat meaning satisfactory.

Page 4
56 PTC is Personnel Transit Centre [in the Far East]
Embarked for UK
9 PDC Personnel Dispatch Centre
ACAC ?
61 MU Maintenance Unit - I think this must be 61 and not 161 as 161 MU was in Egypt and by this stage he was definitely back in the UK. 61 MU was at RAF Cranage in Cheshire and was another equipment storage depot.
100 PDC Personnel Dispatch Centre - the place where he was processed for demobilisation "release"

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 July 25 00:01 BST (UK) »
Hi all, this is my first post so apologies if I ask daft questions  ::)

....

Problem is it has SO much information and some of the handwriting is pretty bad (I know, there was a war on) it also seems to just be quite haphazard with information all over.

...

Also to be remembered is that people who recorded information were quite used to reading other's handwriting & vice versa.  So many wouldn't find the handwriting here difficult to read.

When I started work I was always being given instances of 'difficult' writing to read as I apparently had an eye for it. 

A tip that was given to me was to turn the writing upside down and then look.  Apparently this turns the brain off from assuming you're seeing either bad writing or letters that don't make sense.

There were paper restrictions and so writing was small to make maximum use of the space. 


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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 July 25 02:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for the information, it's so interesting but was probably just mundane at the time.
I'll try the turning it upside down trick, I'm currently doing 2 different family trees and it might help there too  :D

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 July 25 10:43 BST (UK) »
Sorry Andy - no Lance Corporal rank in the RAF at that time.

Came in for RAF Regiment only in 2010.

The classification LAC is Leading Aircraftman

I think you will find that w/t is actually u/t - he never attended any Technical Training for r/t or w/t trade.

Ross
Sea Losses of RAF Aircraft 1918 to date.

RAF Coastal Command 1939-45.

Between the Wars RAF Officers and Warrant Officers.

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 July 25 11:40 BST (UK) »
Sorry Andy - no Lance Corporal rank in the RAF at that time.

Came in for RAF Regiment only in 2010.

The classification LAC is Leading Aircraftman

I think you will find that w/t is actually u/t - he never attended any Technical Training for r/t or w/t trade.
Ross
Thanks Ross, that was careless of me. Should have left it to the subject-matter expert!

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 July 25 11:50 BST (UK) »
Nah - the foreman is only around for so long - good co-workers need to gain experience and step up when exercise opportunity allows.

ACAC - aircrew allocation centre.

Ross

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Re: Help deciphering WW2 RAF Record of Service
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 July 25 17:11 BST (UK) »
I sent for my dad's service record. It had pages of letters ie MU, it was useless as unreadable. Dad was in 267 squadron based at Chaklata, but camp was in Burma. If you know the squadron try following that. Regards