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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 July 25 13:57 BST (UK) »
a "new" pub to add to my list

Just for the record, how many pubs/beer houses are currently on your list?
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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 July 25 00:04 BST (UK) »
Jen B,

Around 200 pubs and beerhouses by name but probably about 160 when you allow for changes of name. 

The pub we are currently talking about was unknown to me until Wednesday of this week when my wife found it in an old trade directory.

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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 July 25 02:07 BST (UK) »
AlanBoyd,

Thank you for the information you have supplied.  I already had a rough idea of the circumstances surrounding the court appearance and I suspected that she wanted rid of Daniel Ludkin.  However, this really fleshes out the story and explains why she applied for a licence on the same day that Ludkin's licence renewal application came to court.

Your other post surprised me because I thought she had been widowed long before she came to the pub.  I did not realise that she had previously worked in the pub, supporting her husband, before Daniel Ludkin became the licensee.  I had not previously seen any mention of her husband and he is difficult to track without a forename and date and place of birth.

Now, I need to find her husband's details and when they arrived at the beerhouse.  The second item shows they were in the pub on 1st January 1869 and so they must have arrived there in 1868 or earlier.  It also explains her confidence in being able to take over the running of the pub herself.

I also need to find out when Daniel Ludkin became licensee.

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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 July 25 14:13 BST (UK) »
Death Announcement: Consett Guardian 22nd October 1870

Burnopfield - On the 18th inst., aged 56, suddenly, Mr George Dodds

1861 Census,

RG 7 / 3729/24/41
Burnopfield.

George Dodds, head, mar, 46, groom, Northumberland, Hexham
Ann do, wife, mar, 39, Durham Gateshead
Ann Fenbridge, boarder, 84, pauper, Northumberland, hexham

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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 13 July 25 14:33 BST (UK) »
JenB,

Thank you - that makes things a lot easier for me.

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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 July 25 15:12 BST (UK) »
Just for the record, I think this is Ann in 1851

HO 107/ 2415/ 397/1
Colwell, Northumberland.

In the household of Robert Stephenson, a farmer

Ann Dodds, visitor, mar, 30, a labourer's wife, Durham Gateshead

And I suspect that this is husband George in 1851

HO 107/ 2415/376/15
Hallington, Northumberland

In the household of George Dodds, an agricultural labourer aged 75

George Dodds, son, mar, 35, agricultural labourer, Northumberland Anick Grange.

(Anick Grange is on the north side of the Tyne, a short distance from Hexham.)
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Re: Mrs Ann Dodds, Burnopfield
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 15 July 25 15:46 BST (UK) »
JenB,

In response to your reply #8.  I have just been re-reading this and I know that both breweries in the village were closed by this date.  However, there were still a substantial number of breweries in the area so, it is possible that he was either supplying yeast to them or even being involved in the brewing industry in some other way.

But Daniel Ludkin's movements are very difficult to track.  He would have taken over the licence some time after 1870 when George Dodds died.  He was living in Whickham in 1869 and that is very close to Burnopfield so it is possible that he took over very soon after George died.

He was also removed as a licensee for far less reason than seems normal at the time.  He lost his licence as a first offence - which is also unusual.  I think that there may be more to his removal than meets the eye in that it was a conspiracy between Police, Magistrates and the owner.  Maybe he was suspected of other offences that could not be proved against him, or maybe he was just unpopular.  We will probably never know.