Thomas Pyle (Father & Grandparents)

[jonwarrn]

Excellent, it all fits.
Discharged in 1828, married the following year (when he marked)

Must be him, because of the death date. Age at decease in the later pensions record matches the age given in the GRO index. Unless it's the wrong death (seems unlikely!)

So some progress at last.

[RHP485]

Hi Jonwrrn

Yes it looks like my distant relative has got the right Thomas Pyle and not me!

She believes his mother is Ann Stafford/Salford born in 1755 in Dentonburn who died in 1820 and married a Richard Reed Hodgson in December 1788 in Chester le Street. He may have been Thomas's father and they were the grandparents of Thomas Pyle murdered at Durham in 1881?

Not sure if you or anyone else can confirm this?

[jonwarrn]

That baptism was 23 July 1787 at Newburn in Northumberland. Close to Newcastle.
FreeReg transcription
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/684d9d3c86557455d476a882

BT here
Thomas S of Richard Pile + Ann Stalford base born Et.(East) Denton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6XW9-XG6

I'm afraid I don't know how likely it is that it is your Thomas.

A Richard Pyle married Martha Colvin, 25 Dec 1790, in Newcastle. Same man?
https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/58182934e93790eb7f487610

And there is a Richard Pile in the Returns of men and carts, Westgate, Newcastle upon Tyne, in 1798. Perhaps that's him
https://calmview.northumberland.gov.uk/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=Q%2fS%2fB%2f90%2f6%2f25&pos=1

[willsy]

All references I have found for the marriage of Ann Stalford 1788 have the date as 22 Mar 1788 and at Newburn, it's on freereg and Genuki

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tv7/

This transcription has Richard Reed Hobson wid. and Ann Stalford single

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tv8/

it's no.767

[willsy]

On freereg there is a baptism for Ann Reed or Hodgson, illegitimate dau. 19 Oct 1788

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tv9/

Parents transcribed as Richard Reed and Ann Hodgson, thery are living in East Denton

other childrens baptisms are there to.

[RHP485]

Thanks for all the replies so far!

I think I have everything I need now to resolve the issue of who Thomas Pyle, born 1831, father and grandparents were!

His father was Thomas Pile/Pyle born in July 1787 in Houghton le Spring. His grandmother was Ann Stafford/Salford born in 1755. His grand father was Richard Pile.

It looks like his grandfather and grandmother were not married so his father probably at first had his grandmother's surname Stafford/Salford but later decided to use his grandfather's surname Pile/Pyle.

His Grandmother eventually married Richard Reed Hodgson (Hobson shown on church register) in 1788.

Thanks for all the information which at last proves my information on this issue was wrong and my distant relative has the right information!