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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 10 July 25 17:25 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
As I mentioned above, you can find Albert with his parents and sister Winnifred in the 1945 Voters List. They are living in Woodstock Ontario and young Albert appears to be in the armed forces as he is noted to be On Active Service.

The four of them are in Woodstock together in the 1940 Voters List as well.

Unfortunately, if he stayed in Ontario, privacy laws are going to hamper the search for a marriage or death record for Albert, or any children. Births are protected for 100 years, marriages for 80 years, and deaths for 70 years if I remember correctly. You would need something like a newspaper notice or obit for the time period in question.

Having said that, where Albert seems to disappear from the Woodstock Voters Lists there is an Edward Fitzjohn with a wife Kathleen in the Woodstock Voters Lists going forward. Findagrave has his 1992 death and burial in Woodstock with birth year of 1913 but no other info. So there is no apparent way to know if this is Albert using Edward instead but food for thought.

If Albert was overseas with the armed forces, it is possible that he married in England during the war. FreeBMD has a possible marriage in 1943 but you would need to purchase the cert to see if the groom is your Albert.

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 10 July 25 19:12 BST (UK) »
The Kathleen polarbear mentions above was Kathleen Rose Winters born 1907 - daughter of Stephen and Emily Winters - birth registered Rotherham 1907.  The 1939 register does show her married name as Fitzroy.  Married 9-11-1943 to Albert Fitzroy (sadly not yours)  Kathleen passed away in 1985

Kathleen Rose Fitzjohn - 25 November 1907  - 1985  (aged 77 years)

Registration District   Newton Abbott   Devon
Volume   21 Page   1602

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polarbear was correct that Albert Charles Edward Fitzroy was Edward on the Canadian Voters Lists in Oxford Ontario.  :)

Albert Edward Charles Fitzroy married Kathleen Nicholls who was born 1904 Ontario.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLLX-LBV?lang=en

Parents John Henry Nicholls and Ellen. The family immigrated in 1911.
Here they are on the 1911 Canadian Census Woodstock Oxford Ontario.

John Nicholl   43   Head. Gas Stoker.
Ellen Nicholl 48 Wife
Frances Nicholl 19 Daughter
Annie Nicholl 16 Daughter
Jack Nicholl 15 Son
Evelyn Nicholl 10 Daughter
Katherine Nicholl 7 Daughter
Charles Nicholl 5 Son
Keliaw Nicholls 2 Daughter
Reuben Wells 19 Son-in-law
Samuel Dadson63 Lodger

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9G-12HY?lang=en


Same family before immigration in 1901 Truro Cornwall.

John H Nicholls   32   Head
Ellen Nicholls 37 Wife
Frances E Nicholls 8 Daughter
Annie J Nicholls 6 Daughter
John H Nicholls 4 Son
Evelyn N Nicholls 2/12 Daughter
Eliza Datson 76 Mother-in-law

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHH-LJW?lang=en

1921 census Woodstock Oxford Ontario.

Henry Nicholas   54   Head
Ellen Nicholas 58 Wife
Charles Nicholas 14 Son
Evelyn Nicholas 20 Daughter
Kathleen Nicholas 17 Daughter
Lilian Nicholas 12 Daughter

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 July 25 19:16 BST (UK) »
Sister Evelyn Nichols married Thomas G Lewis - Evelyn passed away Monday 11 September 1967

Obituary for Mrs Thomas G Lewis  (Evelyn Nichols) mentions Mrs Edward (Kathleen) Fitzjohn of Woodstock.

Waterloo Region Record
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
Mon, 11 Sept 1967
Page 23

https://www.newspapers.com/article/waterloo-region-record/176357187/

FIND A GRAVE


Parklawn Cemetery
Cambridge, Waterloo Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada
Plot Section - 5

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/274176659/evelyn-lewis

Husband Rev Thomas Lewis - passed 1974

Waterloo Region Record
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada 
Fri, 6 Dec 1974
Page 31

https://www.newspapers.com/article/waterloo-region-record/176404121/

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 10 July 25 19:21 BST (UK) »

FIND A GRAVE

John Henry Nichols - 1867 - 1950

Anglican CemeteryWoodstock, Oxford County Municipality, Ontario.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tuv/

death - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:69ZB-LY3Z?lang=en

Ellen Datson Nichols - 1862 - 1954

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/217835845/ellen-nicholls

other family mentioned.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KVRH-JVH

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 10 July 25 19:39 BST (UK) »


Kathleen Nicholls had been married previously in 1931

Kathleen Nicholls  - 1904 Woodstock Oxford Ontario married 16 April 1931  (aged 27 years)
Marriage Date   16 Apr 1931   Woodstock, Oxford, Ontario, Canada
Spouse    Morris Leroy Schlimme
Father    John Henry Nicholls
Mother    Ellen Nicholls

Death of husband Morris Schlimme - 31 December 1941

Mrs Kathleen Schlimme
Spouse   Morris Schlimme
Certificate Number   001583
Burial Woodstock Ontario - 2 January 1942

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68JQ-H1HW?lang=en

Birth of Morris Schlimme1907

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68JQ-H1HW?lang=en

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 01:04 »
Thanks for the extra info about the 1943 marriage of Albert Fitzjohn and Kathleen Winters, Sandra. I hadn’t thought to look at the 1939 Register. Settles that then….not the Albert from Canada.

So we have…

Albert Jr. and family in Woodstock in 1940 and 1945 Voters Lists.
Mrs. K. Schlimme Widow in Woodstock in the 1945 Voters List. Hubby Morris died in 1942. S
We know she was Kathleen Nicholls from her sister’s obit and she lived in Woodstock.
Edward and Kathleen Fitzjohn in Woodstock in Voters Lists going forward. Name change?
Deaths for Edward and Kathleen on Findagrave. Buried in Woodstock.

The only thing missing here really is a marriage record for Edward and Kathleen to connect this Edward to the Albert Charles Edward but this won’t be public yet due to privacy laws. Are they one and the same? My sense is that the circumstantial evidence points to them perhaps being the same man. But I would also advise a wee bit of caution and to keep looking for more info to help connect the dots. New info is always coming on line.

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 10:12 »

A small time frame for the marriage might be :-

1945 as mentioned previous shows the Fitzjohn family including Albert together at 71 Bay Street. Oxford. Ontario.

1949 Canada Voters List - Mrs Kathleen Fitzjohn and Edward (attendant) at 61 South Street. Oxford. Ontario.

Mrs Kathleen Fitzjohn - Residence Date   1949
Residence Place   Oxford, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District   Oxford

Have heard mention that the year of the voters list is for the year previous - so maybe 1945 - 1948 for the marriage ?

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Re: albert charles edward fitzjohn
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 15:05 »
About the voters list…

The one with the Fitzjohn family is the finally revised urban list of electors for polling division No. 1, St John’s, Woodstock, of the electoral district of Oxford. It is dated 01 June 1945. The election was apparently the 11th of June that year. So a marriage would be after 1st June.

The Ontario Archives currently has marriage records up to 1943 I think. A new year is added annually. Digitization follows and I believe is currently up to 1942 or soon will be.

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