1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???

[AlanBoyd]

all my House & Hotel H??ni??e

“Furniture”

(Is it really hotel?)

[Rowan Tree]

the sum of five pounds. ?? ? my have this twenty second day of April 1854

“as witness my hand this”

Many thanks 

[Rowan Tree]

all my House & Hotel H??ni??e

“Furniture”

(Is it really hotel?)

I may have misunderstood/misread words. Don't be afraid to say if you see something different to me.

It looks like 'ho' then a 't' that isn't crossed (so many of the letter t's haven't been crossed in this document) and then an 'e' and possibly a short 'l' to end. There are plenty of short d's in the document. The 'd' on some of the and's in this document are so short, the 'd' ends up looking like an 'e'.

James was living in the Waggon and Horses when the original will was wrote, when the codicil was added, and when he died. I've seen the Waggon & Horses referred to as an Inn. I'm trying to remember if I've seen it referred to as a hotel. The Ram's Head, just down the road was referred to as a hotel.

I'm pondering...

ADDED: I have found the Waggon and Horses referred to as an hotel but not while James was alive 

[AlanBoyd]

I’d forgotten about the Waggon & Horses connection.

[jonwarrn]

all my House & Hotel H??ni??e

“Furniture”

(Is it really hotel?)

household furniture

Copy will on FamilySearch
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6FQS-W6J

[Rowan Tree]

Hi jonwarrn,

Thanks so much. I wasn't aware there was a copy of the will on Family Search. I'm glad I now know. I'm wondering if there are other TWISS family wills available. I'm going to see if I can find anything.

I say "a copy" of the will because what's on Family Search isn't the original. It's an, I assume, contemporary copy. The copy definitely says "household furniture", not "house & hotel furniture." I'm looking at the original and I think it does most likely say "household furniture." It's the 'd' of household that was leading me astray. It looks like two separate letters in the original. I'm so glad I'm able to ask people on Roots Chat about handwriting. It can be so challenging!

Rowan Tree 

[jonwarrn]

Hi
I think most of the Lancashire wills (they include administrations) on FamilySearch are the originals, except for the latter years just before 1858.
They have the act book entry for James (bottom right)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89K1-C2JL

It seems that it can be downloaded.

Though these are not indexed on the main search, you can now use a full text search (you need to be logged in of course)
Here are results for Twiss and Haydock (I've restricted it to the 1800's)
https://www.familysearch.org/en/search/full-text/results?count=20&q.text=%2Btwiss%20%2Bhaydock&c.recordYear1=on&f.recordYear0=1800

If using more than one keyword put the + sign before them so you only get results when they are together in the same image. You can use quotation marks, i.e. "james twiss", and use the name box as well.
You can select a particular place or record type, though they don't always have everything under what it should be. Not every film has been indexed yet, but they seem to have done a lot.
You can only search records that are open to view at home, so for some counties there is quite a lot to find, and others very little.

[Rowan Tree]

Thanks, Jon, that's really helpful 

If the James TWISS will on Family Search isn't a contemporary copy, then I'm not sure how to describe it. It's in a different hand to the original that is held at Lancashire Records Office and it isn't signed. Whereas the original at LRO is signed 

[jonwarrn]

Hi
It's the register copy will made by the court when the will was probated.

Among other things, there is an original will of Thomas Knowles of Haydock, 1833, which a mentions a Twiss sister and nephew
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DW53-WRV?view=fullText&keywords=Twiss%2CHaydock&lang=en&groupId=

And a copy will, fairly brief, proved in 1857, of a Matthew Twist of Parr near St Helens, with property and Twist relatives in Haydock. Who he?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DKRS-KWR?view=fullText&keywords=Haydock%2CTwist&lang=en&groupId=