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1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« on: Monday 07 July 25 16:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking at an 1848 birth certificate for Mary Jane TWISS, daughter of Ellen TWISS.

I'd thought Mary Jane was born in Haydock, Lancs., and the 1851 and 1861 Censuses back this up, but I couldn't find a birth in the appropriate registration district (Warrington).

I did, however, find a birth registration in a bordering reg. district (Wigan).
I'm now looking at the birth and it looks like a fit. Ashton-in-Makerfield and Haydock border each other. Mary Jane's baptism was in Ashton-in-Makerfield. And the d/o/b on the birth cert. matches the d/o/b recorded with the baptism.

I'm wondering if Ellen Twiss, Mary Jane's mother, moved from Ashton-in-Makerfield, back to Haydock (where she was from) in-between the birth and the baptism because the baptism records a residence of Haydock. Mary Jane is living in Haydock on the 1851 Census.

Anyway... I'm struggling with the place of birth.

I THINK it reads, Lodge or Judge Field Barn or Barns, Ashton.

Can anyone take a look and give me their opinion, please? Also, does anyone know where in Ashton-in-Makerfield this was/is?

Many thanks,

Rowan Tree  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:00 BST (UK) »
It's Judge Field Brow.
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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:02 BST (UK) »
From LancashireOPC
Baptism: 6 Aug 1848 St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire
Mary Jane Twiss - 2 Illegitimate 2 Daughter of Ellen Twiss
    Born: 19 Jul 1848
    Abode: Haydock
    Occupation: Servant
    Baptised By: E Pigot Vicar
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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:10 BST (UK) »
It's Judge Field Brow.
Thanks so much, Shaun  :)

I was close, but not close enough.

RT  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN


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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:12 BST (UK) »
From LancashireOPC
Baptism: 6 Aug 1848 St Thomas, Ashton in Makerfield, Lancashire
Mary Jane Twiss - 2 Illegitimate 2 Daughter of Ellen Twiss
    Born: 19 Jul 1848
    Abode: Haydock
    Occupation: Servant
    Baptised By: E Pigot Vicar
Thanks, Rosie. I have this baptism. RT  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:14 BST (UK) »
Has anyone heard of Judge Field Brow in Ashton-in-Makerfield, or know where it was/is?
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN

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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:15 BST (UK) »
I only mentioned it because as well as the 2 census you mention it says Haydock  ;D
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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:16 BST (UK) »
Has anyone heard of Judge Field Brow in Ashton-in-Makerfield, or know where it was/is?

1851
HO107
Piece  2201
Folio 236
Page 17
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Re: 1848 TWISS Birth Certificate. Where in Ashton-in-Makerfield???
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 July 25 17:17 BST (UK) »
I only mentioned it because as well as the 2 census you mention it says Haydock  ;D
Yes - I mention this in my original comment  :)
ASPEY: Wirral & Tarvin, CHS
BARNETT: Hulme, Manchester & Oldham, LAN
BLACK: Grasmere, WES & Prescot, LAN
COTTAM, HEATON & LITTLER: Ashton-in-Makerfield, LAN
DIEHL: Germany & LAN
FORSHAW: Haydock, LAN
HARRISON: Newton-le-Willows, Haydock & Parr, LAN
JACKSON: Newton-le-Willows, LAN & Somerford Booths, CHS
PARKINSON: LAN
PHILLIPS: Chester, CHS & Manchester, LAN
MADDOCKS: WLS, CHS & LAN
ROSCOE: Sutton/Prescot, LAN