Mary Fisher mystery 1831 to 1921

[daljul]

Michael McBlane who died 2023 shares 141 cms with CF and 118 with TC. Ancestry shows them as his 2nd cousins 1st removed. I think this means that CF and TC share GG Grandparents. On that basis their common GG Grandparent seems to be Mary Campbell Fisher born 29 Aug 1838 Tarbolton, Ayrshire Scotland parents shown as Robert Fisher and Anne Wallace. She married John Moore widower in 1866 giving her age as 25 spinster (DOB 1831?) cenus records from 1841 to 1891 seems to confirm this year of birth

Michael McBlane was born New York 1956. GG Grandmother he had a tree with Mary Fisher born 1831 County Antrim Ireland she married Alexander McBlane in 1857 Dalry, Ayrshire, Scotland both widows, Mary's age 26 ( DOB 1831?)Census records from to 1921 seem to confirm this. Her parents shown as Robert Fisher and Margaret Bingham. I haven't found a previous marriage for Mary. In 1887 she married Malcolm Graham Howie giving age as 44 (DOB 1843?).

If these are two different Mary Fisher's  would the DNA matches to CF and TC be incorrect?

Any help would be appreciated.
dinkey

[Forfarian]

Michael McBlane who died 2023 shares 141 cms with CF and 118 with TC. Ancestry shows them as his 2nd cousins 1st removed. I think this means that CF and TC share GG Grandparents.

I don't think that is a safe assumption on its own. He might share 141 cms on his father's side with CF and 118 on his mother's side with TC.

How many cms do TC and CF share?

Do you have a reliable tree (i.e. not some unverified fantasy copied from Ancestry or any other commercial web site) to prove Michael McBlane's, CF's and TC's descents from one or more Mary Fishers?

You need to look at the 1857 certificate of marriage to McBlane and the 1866 marriage to Moore to see who the certificates say the parents of the brides are. That will confirm whether they are two different Mary Fishers or not.

[daljul]

Thank you Forfarian for your reply.

TC and CF share 38 cM so distantly related.

I have the marriage details of Mary Campbell Fisher to John Moore and also to Malcolm Howie ages at marriages differ.

I understand what you say that the matches could be from the mothers side. I guess a lot more researching and building of trees is going to be the only way to see where Michael McBlane matches with TC and CF

[Forfarian]

1861 census, Dalry has Alexander McBlane, 30, with wife Mary, 30, born Ireland, Robert, 3 and .

1871 in Auchinleck has Alex McBlane, 40, wife Mary, 39, born Ireland, and six children including Robert, 13, born Dalry.

As this is after the marriage of Mary Fisher to John Moore there can be no doubt that these are two different Mary Fishers.

[Forfarian]

TC and CF share 38 cM so distantly related.

So they are far more distantly related to one another than either is to Michael McBlane.

I guess a lot more researching and building of trees is going to be the only way to see where Michael McBlane matches with TC and CF

Yes, I think so.